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dag

05-13-2004 12:38:41




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I am a newbie. Have a ferg, no i.d. plate on dash. Is it a TO 20 or 30? #1373 on right side below seat area - makes it a 48 TO 20 right?
Next, no pto. There is a "plug" there. Can that be replaced and what does it take to do?
Thanks




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Jeff-oh

05-14-2004 07:05:08




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 Re: ferguson i.d. in reply to dag, 05-13-2004 12:38:41  
dag,

Look at the left side of the engine. There should be a cast engine number if it is a Z120 then you either have a TE-20 or a TO-20 if it is a Z-129 then you have a TO-30. If it is a standard engine then you have a TEA-20.

Hope this helps for initial id.
Jeff



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G Field

05-14-2004 16:20:08




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 Re: Re: ferguson i.d. in reply to Jeff-oh, 05-14-2004 07:05:08  
All Ferguson tractors have their identity or commission plate on the dash with the serial number on the top with US made models and at base of plate with UK made models. TE and TO 20s had Z120 engines with a makers plate on left side of block, the serial number of engine prefixed Z120 -----

Ford made Fergusons have a plate on dash but no serial number stamped on it. The only number is on the engine thus if the engine has been changed there is no definitive way to date the tractor exactly.

Apart from the TE20 with Z120 engines, all Coventry built Fergusons have a serial number stamped on left side of block next the the coil on all spark ignition tractors (prefixed S or SC) and on the right front side of block for all TE Fergusons with diesel engines (prefixed SA).

French made Ferguson 20s are similarly marked but there are not so many of them around. 517651 Fergusons were made at Coventry plus those made in Detroit and the few made near Paris in France.

All TOs and most TEs have a casting code on the transmission whick is the date the fondry work was done and preceeds the date of manufacture by one to six weeks in nearly all cases. The time delay depends on the year, model and other factors such as strikes and production holdups.

Pre World War II Ferguson As have a brass plate on dash with the serial number stamped on it starting at 1 in May 1936. Both TE and TO serials stated at 1 as well.

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James, UK

05-14-2004 02:22:30




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 Re: ferguson i.d. in reply to dag, 05-13-2004 12:38:41  
dag - this 'plug' that you have - is it bell shaped, and does it stick out by a couple of inches and have a square drive of about an inch on it? If so that is the PTO cover - unscrew it and you will see the PTO shaft.

Ferguson did this to reduce the chances of injury to operators when only the 3pt was needed (as the PTO needs to operate)

HTH



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dag

05-19-2004 13:19:59




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 Re: Re: ferguson i.d. in reply to James, UK, 05-14-2004 02:22:30  
Thanks for the info. It does fit your description. I am a little hesitant to remove, could I be getting into something I am not ready to work on?



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mr chapp

05-13-2004 12:55:46




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 Re: ferguson i.d. in reply to dag, 05-13-2004 12:38:41  
dag, I've found that most numbers on the tractor are part or casting numbers and mean little or nothing about the model. Try to establish what engine it has. Continental or Standard. Maybe the engine plate is still there? This may give a starting point. If no engine plate, does it have an external oil filter, what kind of distributor does it have, and other little bits like this will help. Good luck, have fun!!

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