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Dana

05-04-2004 08:48:01




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(Please bare with the new guy!)

My tractor's VIN shows it to be a '57. It's red and gray. Very FADED red, but originally red either way (front wheels read, rear wheels red with gray rims). Can that color combo be marked-up to being produced late in '57 as everything I've read says they didn't go to red/gray until '58?

Also, mine is 12volt neg ground. Is that correct? The starter says "Delco-Remy 12volt" right on it and the battery is an older 12volt grounded to the frame. Around the forums I'm reading pos. ground and 6volt, but the more I read it seems the more confused I get. Any help with the correct color and electrical system will be greatly appreciated!!

Just so you all know I'm not TOTALLY new at this; I've been into the old Dodge Power Wagons, and their military counterparts for a few years. Dealing with 6volt and pos ground is nothing new (neither is a 24 volt system!). Original colors vary from which book you read or which web-site you visit. But, being new to this little tractor, I'm starting all over again!!

...come to think of it... a '57 Fergie is one of the newest vehicles I own!!

Thanks everyone!
Dana

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Paul in AZ

05-04-2004 10:27:28




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 Re: More confused than ever... in reply to Dana, 05-04-2004 08:48:01  
In late October of 1957, Massey Ferguson accounced that it would no longer have two separate tractor lines (Ferguson/Massey-Harris). The new line was to be introduced in January of 1958. So during the last few weeks of 1957, a number of Ferguson TO-35s were given the new colors, red and flint gray (I assume you have a 35). They had had 12v, negatiave ground since early 1956.

Much of this is explained in great detail in several issues of "Ferguson Furrows," a newsletter published by Ferguson Enthusiasts of North America (FENA). For members, back issues are available. If you are interested in joining FENA, US dues are $10 per year (including 5 issues of the newsletter). Send dues to John Iwen, 1811 Parkway Drive, Bettendorf, IA 52722.

Good luck with yout newest mechanical hobby. I am restoring a '54 Dodge 1/2-T pickup in addition to two Ferguson F-40s.

Paul

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Dana

05-04-2004 12:07:32




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 Re: Re: More confused than ever... in reply to Paul in AZ, 05-04-2004 10:27:28  
Thanks Paul! I think I will join the FENA! (I've even been to Bettendorf, IA! My wife's an 'Iowijan'!)

Also, if you run into a snag with that 'hard-to-find-Dodge-part', let me know, I've got a lot of Dodge friends out there!

Dana



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Justin-PA

05-04-2004 10:15:48




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 Re: More confused than ever... in reply to Dana, 05-04-2004 08:48:01  
According to this message (see link) they changed to red/grey at serial number 176341. Not sure on the accuracy, but I have no reason to doubt it. My 1955 TO35 has 6V negative ground. I'm not sure on the history of the electrical system, but someone could have swapped yours to 12V sometime over the years.



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