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Problem with Gear lever + Starting

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Vaughan

04-30-2004 23:02:05




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I have just spend sometime trying to get my TEA 20 started. Once the starter motor turns it's fine and starts no problem. The problem is that when I move the gearlever to the S position, most of the time, nothing happens. If I keep trying a number of times I might get lucky and the switch that the lever actuates actually works. What is the likely problem?

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Vaughan




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John, IN

05-02-2004 07:23:24




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 Re: Problem with Gear lever + Starting in reply to Vaughan, 04-30-2004 23:02:05  
I had the same thing going on with my TO20, it was hit or miss. All it was, was a loose wire on the starter. Check all your wiring be for you go out and buy anything.



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Ray,IN`

05-01-2004 22:26:35




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 Re: Problem with Gear lever + Starting in reply to Vaughan, 04-30-2004 23:02:05  
A new switch may be purchased form CarQuest, NAPA, or a MF dealer. In a nearby city an independent tractor parts stors carries them. I think they sell for about $25.



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Peter, U.K.

04-30-2004 23:12:33




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 Re: Problem with Gear lever + Starting in reply to Vaughan, 04-30-2004 23:02:05  
Sounds like the starter solenoid could be faulty - will the starter motor turn if you bridge the two solenoid terminals with a screwdriver?



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Jim W

05-01-2004 05:52:08




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 Re: Re: Problem with Gear lever + Starting in reply to Peter, U.K., 04-30-2004 23:12:33  
There is an adjustment - the four holes in the starter switch are elongated to allow it to slide fore and aft. If you loosen them and slide it forward a bit, that may solve it.
If not, it could be that the contacts are pitted. In that case you can take the switch apart and clean them up. Take off the cables (being careful as the threaded posts are copper), and undo the three screws. It will become obvious what to do at that point. Take car with the top part of the switch as it is easy to break the bakelite or plastic or whatever it is.
Jim

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Vaughan

05-01-2004 17:45:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Problem with Gear lever + Starting in reply to Jim W, 05-01-2004 05:52:08  
Thanks Jim for your advise but I have a question. Where is the starter switch located that you refer to?

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Vaughan



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James, UK

05-01-2004 11:54:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Problem with Gear lever + Starting in reply to Jim W, 05-01-2004 05:52:08  
Adding to what Jim W has said, I have also had the same problem with my TED - and found that the (electrical pitting) wear inside the switch was so bad that I could not adjust the switch or emery paper the contacts back to life - so ended up adding packing copper plate behind the lead to give the necessary contact.

If I could still get lead sheet easily, I would have bought some, but the Eurocrats out there have decreed that Pb is nasty stuff and we should not be allowed to buy it (for our own good, of course).

Having got the switch to work satisfactorily, to save it from further and final damage, I added an aftermarket solenoid to the wiring - so the 'S' position operates the solenoid, and the solenoid carries the starter current.

That way, I can still start using the gear lever, which is a feature I like, and I know that the only damage that is being done is to the solenoid.

When you remove the switch from the gearbox and disconnect the linkage, tie a bit of string round the linkage that is connected to the operating lever inside the gearbox - that way if the (^%%&( thing drops inside the gearbox/clutch housing when you are not looking, you can still retrieve it easily.

No, not me, never done that, honest!

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