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Stephen

04-07-2004 04:28:05




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I read with much interest the fact that so many Fergy fans are showing interest in constructing their own position control device. As the Designor and constructor of a position control device I thought I might just add my little bit of information.

We did give this idea for position control serious consideration when designing the current "Fergy Positioner" several years ago but discounted it for a number of reasons. Whilst functional it was a bit of an ugly looking adaptation to the Ferguson Tractor and the fact that if the operator left their hand on the control lever it would prevent the position control device from functioning correctly. The "Fergy Positioner" actually moves the whole quadrant assembly which allows the operator to leave their hand on the leaver and make minute position changes safely.

I commend all those that have had a go at making their own and I am sure that you are happy with it, as position control certainly gives the Fergy a whole new lease of life, and the operator can do so much more easily and safely with their tractor. However the "Fergy Positioner" we beleive will do all that but in a better, neater, and safer way.

Happy Fergying to you all. Stephen

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Rick

04-07-2004 17:37:34




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 Re: Position Control Information in reply to Stephen, 04-07-2004 04:28:05  
I saw pictures of the technique also and from that I came to the same conclusion as Mark. I have no experience with it, I just didn't like the idea of my quadrant moving around on a surface that is intended to be stationary. I worried about wear on the surfaces, dirt and grease gumming up the works. I sure could be wrong, I just made the judgement on pictures and an explanation of how it works. The "benefit" of being able to leave your hand on the lever just doesn't ring as a benefit to me.

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Mark

04-07-2004 05:39:26




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 Re: Position Control Information in reply to Stephen, 04-07-2004 04:28:05  
Stephen, Not so subtle of an advertisement.

However, you do bring up a valid topic, discussion of the pros and cons of the systems. I do not see the advantage you try to point out. When I am mowing I do not ride with my hand oh the finger tip control. Nor do I want to make subtle adjustments all the time... That is why I made a positioner in the first place. Set it and go. In contemplation of the Fergy Positioner, I shutter at the idea of loosening the quadrant and allowing it to move. In loosening up the quadrant a path is now open for dust, dirt and grime to enter the transmission to grind away and destroy it. Thank you no I don't see the advantage.

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Fergy

04-08-2004 04:17:45




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 Re: Re: Position Control Information in reply to Mark, 04-07-2004 05:39:26  
Mark, you certainly seem to have missed the point. By loosening the quadrant the smallest amount and following the instructions there is no passage for dirt or dust to enter the transmission. There is a far bigger and easier entry for dirt, dust and water to enter the transmission around the input shaft down the center of the draft control spring. I have a Fergy Positioner and have had a ZANE and am much happier with the control the Fergy Positioner gives me.

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Chris Brown

04-08-2004 04:52:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Position Control Information in reply to Fergy, 04-08-2004 04:17:45  
I have never seen a fergie positioner.
I saw a zane and I have seen the rick rick pictures.
I would like to see one and see how it works. Is there a picture a fergie positioner anywhere?



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Ralph

04-08-2004 15:13:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Position Control Information in reply to Chris Brown, 04-08-2004 04:52:31  
here is a link to the Fergy Positioner (Scroll down, it's at the bottom of the page), you will see that it is a tidy, well-fitting device.



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Ray,IN

04-08-2004 21:04:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Position Control Information in reply to Ralph, 04-08-2004 15:13:47  
After viewing the apparatus on your website I will state this: " This is something I would never consider using on my tractors". It causes things to move and slide that have the potential to wear quite quickly and result in mounting expenses. Speaking as a retired tool and die maker, this runs contrary to all sound machinery practice. Perhaps Kim will delete this thread and request you advertise in the proper place.

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Paul in Ms

04-09-2004 04:46:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Position Control Informati in reply to Ray,IN, 04-08-2004 21:04:03  
I would not call it advertising. He is speaking his opinion just like Zane has many times. I don't see any problems with the ferguson positioner . It is lubed with grease before it is installed and with any other part it has to be maintained . How many other parts slip and slide and wear out on the Ferguson . There has been lots of discussion about the types of positioner lately and they all work. So take your pick.

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