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SJB

03-20-2004 20:40:38




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Hi, I just aquired a TO-20. Can anyone suggest where I can get an owner's manual and good service manual? I have heard stories about these machines having a bad habbit of flipping over. Any concern? Normal balasting procedure hold true with these old girls? Also, I did not notice a oil filter. Do I need new glasses? Thanks for all the help!!!




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Jeff-oh

03-22-2004 05:27:17




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 Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-20-2004 20:40:38  
SBJ,

Welcome, I am sure I will repeat several of the points made below, but I have skimmed the replies, so forgive me if I repeat.

Manuals are readily available. You should get the Shop service manual (~$13.00) and an ownwers manual (~$9.00) Prices vary widely and I have seen these for over $30.00 each. Check with your local massey dealer on book prices, also I posted the site for the best manual prices on the web a few weeks back. Do an archive search on manual prices and it should come up.

No you did not see a oil filter because it is in the oil pan, not external. The filter you need is a number 1107 filter available at NAPA. Bought one last Thursday ($6.88). Also get an oil cover seal (from MF ~$2.50).

These tractors are not as tippy as alot of others, i.e. low profile four wheels. That said, any tractor can flip backwards or roll on a hill. use your head, and read the articles on tractor safety.

The oil in the transmission and Hydrolics comes from the same resavor. Do not use the modern GL-5 trans-hydro oils. Some have reported they these oils will errode the bronze gears. Use straight GL-1 90 wt. Mineral oil. (Note NOT SAE 90 gear oil) THe thing to look for is the GL-1 service rating. The oil is available in many places. Some Wal-marts carry a 5 gal. container for ~$23.00. TSC carries a 2 and 5 gal bucket for more under the name Ford Trans. oil. This is the same oil used in the N series.

Also as I saw discussed, Use an Over riding clutch (OCR) if you plan to use a mower. This is because the PTO is directly linked into the transmission and the momentum of the mower blades will drive the tractor forward when you least expect it/want it. The OCR only lets power to be driven one way through the PTO.

It is also a good device to get your PTO from the origional 1-1/8 dia. to the modern 1-3/8 dia. if it has not been changed already.

There is a lot of good info here, look through the archives and ask if you don't find it there.

Jeff

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SJB

03-22-2004 18:57:06




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 Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to Jeff-oh, 03-22-2004 05:27:17  
Thanks for all the great info!!! Where can I get the adapter for the modern PTO and also the OCR? Thanks again!!



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SJB

03-22-2004 04:04:41




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 Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-20-2004 20:40:38  
Any tips on where to start adjusting a freshly rebuilt carb? I notice to idle adjustments. I was wondering where a good place to start with these mixture screws. Thanks.



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Frank (VA)

03-21-2004 19:10:55




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 Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-20-2004 20:40:38  
You can spread the front wheels a bit to make them less tippable.I put a roll bar on mine.

Make sure you get an overiding coupler for the PTO or the mower will push you along even when you push the clutch in.

It is a nice little machine. Have fun.

Frank



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SJB

03-21-2004 19:38:29




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 Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to Frank (VA), 03-21-2004 19:10:55  
Frank,

Do you have any pictures of your machine with the rollbar? Also, where did you get your overide coupler for the pto? Thanks!



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Robert.

03-21-2004 11:03:38




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 Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-20-2004 20:40:38  
Hello SJB. I have an original operators manual for the Ferguson TE 20, TO 20, tractor. Let me know if it is of interest to you. Robert.



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Paul in AZ

03-21-2004 06:01:09




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 Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-20-2004 20:40:38  
SJB,

Your tractor has a hydraulic pump inside the casing under the tractor seat. That pump is what makes the three-point lift system work.

Owner, parts, and shop manuals for the tractor are available on this web site (see "Tractor Manuals" under Marketplace on left of the screen). Make sure the shop manual is produced by MF rather than I & T. The MF manual will serve your needs better, unless you are a trained tractor mechanic.

Good luck.

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SJB

03-21-2004 06:07:29




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 Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to Paul in AZ, 03-21-2004 06:01:09  
Thanks, Standard hydraulic fluid be okay?



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Paul in AZ

03-21-2004 17:55:38




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 Re: Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-21-2004 06:07:29  
Be sure you you get is mineral oil (GL-1) that doesn't have a lot of additives.



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SJB

03-21-2004 05:39:29




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 Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-20-2004 20:40:38  
Are there places to check other fluids? It doesn't have a hydraulic pump. How about fluid for the 3 point. What makes that go up and down? Where to I check that fluid? Thanks for the help!!



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John, IN

03-21-2004 06:22:32




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 Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-21-2004 05:39:29  
Use STRAIGHT MINERAL OIL SAE 90 (above freezing) and STRAIGHT MINERAL OIL SAE 80 (below freezing)6 gallons. There is a dip stick right side of tractor under seat to check fluid.



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SJB

03-21-2004 08:15:35




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 Re: Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to John, IN, 03-21-2004 06:22:32  
Where is this available? TSC? Is there another name for it?



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John, IN

03-21-2004 08:45:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-21-2004 08:15:35  
To tell you there has been so much discussion on oil types over the past months that one just has to make up their own mind. Go back over the past posts. Click on Mineral Oil below, I like that one.



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Mark G (OH)

03-21-2004 08:41:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-21-2004 08:15:35  
SJB,
The mineral oil you need is carried by NAPA,
and their part number is NHF 65-205.



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John, IN

03-21-2004 04:37:20




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 Re: New TO20 Owner in reply to SJB, 03-20-2004 20:40:38  
Congratulations, you now own one of the finest tractors ever made. As far as flipping over goes any and all tractors can and will turn over if you don't watch what your doing. The oil filter is inside the oil pan. Look at the bottom of the oil pan and you will see a round plate with two bolt heads in it. One in center the other to the side. The one to the side will drain the oil, the center one will drop the plate and oil filter out. Oil filter, Napa Gold 1107, oil is SAE 30. Enjoy your new addition.

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