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to30 freeze plug????

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Brian

03-12-2004 07:50:12




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I have a 1953 to 30 that I just purchased. I noticed a hole in the housing just below the steering arm on the right side of the tractor.Should this be open???? Or should there be something in the hole? If someone can take a picture of this I would appeciate it. Also if a photo is needed to show what I mean please let me know.




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Mike Pa

03-15-2004 18:23:39




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 Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to Brian, 03-12-2004 07:50:12  
My TO30 has a factory Sherman (I think). The shifter is behind the steering arm that was made to angle out slightly to allow room for the shifter.
Is the steering arm on the the right side straight, or does it curl out a bit? In any case the 'hole' would be a couple inches in front of the arm.



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Jerry/MT

03-12-2004 17:00:54




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 Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to Brian, 03-12-2004 07:50:12  
Brian,

The only holes on the right hand side of the block of the Z129 engine are the bolt holes for the generator mount, the block coolant drain, the hole for the oil pressure line fitting to the gauge. There should also be an oil filter mounted on the right side. The closest one to the steering arms is the oil pressure guage sense line. There are no core plugs ("freeze plugs") on this block. Hope this helps.

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brian

03-13-2004 05:51:46




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 Re: Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to Jerry/MT, 03-12-2004 17:00:54  
its not on the engine block. it is in the crankcase behind the motor,kinda below the dashboard.just above the foot pegs



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Jerry/MT

03-14-2004 20:32:19




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 Re: Re: Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to brian, 03-13-2004 05:51:46  
brian, Can you send us a picture?



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Duner Wi

03-13-2004 12:58:50




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 Re: Re: Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to brian, 03-13-2004 05:51:46  
Just a guess. Might be a hole for a Sherman transmission. The reason I am guessing is I know Fords had shift lever on the right or left sides depending on year and if step up or step up and down. If this hole would line up with the shaft coming from the clutch and is maybe 8" from where the block /tramsmission split it could be for the Sherman shift lever.



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brian

03-14-2004 05:29:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to Duner Wi, 03-13-2004 12:58:50  
the hole is directly behind the right hand side steering arm when the wheels are straight. If it were for a shifter would there be enough clearance fo it? also should I try to put a plug or something in this hole to close it?



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Duner Wi

03-14-2004 06:52:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to brian, 03-14-2004 05:29:03  
I would stick a plug in the if for no other reason than to keep Mr. Mouse out. Some of the Step up transmissions had a right side shift with a small flat lever that lay on the shift cover. I only saw one of these on a Ford nearly 40 years ago and can't remember where the end of the lever went but it was a close fit. My 9N Ford step up shifts on the left side with a big lever. Some Fords had a cable shift scheme but have not seen any on Fergusons tho I would think Fergusons used a cable too. I really don't know what the hole on yours is for but suspect it is for a step up/step down transmission.

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Crem

03-14-2004 20:25:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: to30 freeze plug???? in reply to Duner Wi, 03-14-2004 06:52:58  
I went to an aucton in WI. a few weeks ago and they sold a TO-20 Ferguson that had the sherman shift on the right handside side. This is the first one that I have seen on a Ferguson and it had a short lever and did not stick out like the ones that I have seen on the Fords. The tractor sold for about $1,200, had good tires, but it did smoke some. A 9N sold for a couple hundred more.



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