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TO-20 Hydraulic Oil

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Tree Farmer

03-04-2004 10:25:14




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Has anyone used the Walmart GL-1 for an extended period of time, say 3 to 5 years? I probably shouldn't be a cheapskate, but the Massey Oil M1103 is so much more expensive it got me to wondering if I might damage my Fergie if I use the much cheaper oil sold by Walmart.




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Barry Reid, Stirling Ont.

03-04-2004 12:54:06




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 Re: TO-20 Hydraulic Oil in reply to Tree Farmer, 03-04-2004 10:25:14  
Afternoon Farmer

I have used the Wal-Mart oil that you are refering to. It has been in my TEA-20 for over 2 years. No problem to date.I use my tractor to bush-hog a few acers, Haul logs out of the woods in the winter, plow my driveway in the winter. ,,,, Barry



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Tree Farmer

03-04-2004 18:15:28




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 Re: Re: TO-20 Hydraulic Oil in reply to Barry Reid, Stirling Ont., 03-04-2004 12:54:06  
Thanks Barry. Going to use it in my TO-20 soon as our 160" of the white stuff goes. TF



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Barry Reid Stirling Ont

03-05-2004 04:56:25




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 Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Hydraulic Oil in reply to Tree Farmer, 03-04-2004 18:15:28  
Morning Tree Farmer

My god 160 inches? I thought it was bad here in Ontario this year. We only had 32 inches.



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DouroBob

03-06-2004 05:26:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Hydraulic Oil in reply to Barry Reid Stirling Ont, 03-05-2004 04:56:25  
Hi Tree Farmer & Barry

I had an interestng discussion on the TBN board about Wal Mart oil for both my 2085 and my MF FE 35

Manual calls for GL 1 - 80/90 weight

I asked if anyone could tell me the difference in GL1 and GL5??

Any quick answers on this one. Local WalMart is selling 80/90 Gear oil GL5 but it doesn't say anything about being compatible with Massey 1103. According to Big Dean, the guru of Masseys, "The oil used in MF35s is an 80/90 wt. Trans/Hyd oil t is not the same as the SAE 80/90 wt gear oil used in car & truck transmission. It is a straight mineral oil GL1 gear oil should be a straight mineral oil"

So, what is the difference in the two oils? Who manufactures the best quality GL1? Just curious.

Bob

JohnMiller3 replied
In the larger WalMarts in our area, they carry the Massey replacement hydraulic fluid in 5 gallon pails... it's about $16-17. /pail, they also have the same flavor in their "Sam's Club's" for maybe a dollar cheaper...

a non-Massey flavor is about $11. a 5 gallon/pail

You can see the immediate difference the gear oil is brown/dark/with additives versus the Massey hydraulic fluid is clear/translucent ...

Don't use the 'Gear Oil" in the older Massey's...


Boomer33 added

Bob: DO NOT use GL5 in your tractor. I have a Ford 8n which calls for the same oil as yours. GL4 and GL5 have additives that will destroy the "bronze" components in your hydraulic system. You may use GL2 or GL3, but it would be better to get the GL1. New Holland dealers sell a product called 134 D for safe use in the older N series tractors with bronze components. It also makes the lift faster and smoother in my machine. Hope this helps!

shady1701 It has some Extreme pressure products in GL-5 for rearend gears which tend to have high loading.. I know even in manual gear boxe's GL-4 you have to use instead of GL-5 due to eating brass syncros out.


Barry - you must have a bigger Wal Mart where you are 'cause I can only get the GL5 stuff on Peterborough. Maybe I will need to get you to do a delvery to Douro {grin}

Hope this is informative.

DouroBob

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Tree Farmer

03-06-2004 19:56:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TO-20 Hydraulic Oil in reply to DouroBob, 03-06-2004 05:26:24  
Good post DouroBob, very informative and helpfull. Barry- as of this AM, we have 167.1 inches of snow. Only good thing is that it has to be some of the whitest and cleanest snow in the midwest. On the south shore of Lake Superior, water evaporates from the big lake and dumps it on us pretty good - record is slightly over 300 inches for one winter. Spring is on the way - Highway load limits have been posted. Looked at Fergie today under her cover and she's ready to go.

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