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TED 20 Choke Knob

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Robert B, UK

01-13-2004 04:20:30




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After doing several victory laps of my field following a frost damage enforced engine rebuild, I've found I did not tighten the lock-nut on my choke knob and it has fallen off...does any body know where I can get a replacement, preferably in the UK?




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Ross M, UK

01-13-2004 23:26:09




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 Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Robert B, UK, 01-13-2004 04:20:30  
Try Holland Brand, they don't have them on their website but worth emailing them as they can find lots of stuff, www.fergieparts.co.uk. Or try Southern Counties on 01243 512109 they are very helpful.

Out of interest where did the frost damage occur. I have a load of some form of sealant running length way level with the carb which i believe to be a crack but not sure if anything gets out yet as the engines not running. Any tips on welding the cracks up?

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Robert B, UK

01-14-2004 00:58:14




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 Re: Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Ross M, UK, 01-13-2004 23:26:09  
Ross,

Thanks for your help - I shall get straight onto them.

The crack appeared (on the morning after I bought the tractor!) from the crankcase drain tap along to the breather banjo. As you say behind the carb. It only weeped when hot, but I did spend a fortune getting it welded up - but this was a waste of time, money and effort as the it leaked even more afterwards!

After due consultation with my local agricultural engineers thay suggested applying JB Weld on the outside and inside of the crack (liners out job) and then use "Wonderweld" followed by "Bars Leaks". Seems to have done the trick I just need to address a carb rebuild and a leaking timing cover crank seal (I think I put it in the wrong way round...)

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Ross M, UK

01-14-2004 01:07:08




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 Re: Re: Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Robert B, UK, 01-14-2004 00:58:14  
P.S dont suppose you've many TED 20 Spares lying about have you? Please email me if you have on rossmacdonald99 at hotmail dot com.

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Ross M, UK

01-14-2004 01:04:27




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 Re: Re: Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Robert B, UK, 01-14-2004 00:58:14  
Well hope you find a choke knob. maybe i'll leave the sealant stuff on and see how it goes. Maybe grind/sand it back so it looks a bit better.

Thanks
Ross



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Robert B, UK

01-14-2004 01:21:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Ross M, UK, 01-14-2004 01:04:27  
Ross,

I'm afraid I can not help on the spares side, all the bits I have replaced during the engine strip down and rebuild where past redemption.

The only bits I have kept being the clutch cover (levers well worn and probably U/S) and the temperature gauge which I hope to get restored at some stage.

I would be careful in grinding too much off - I decided cosmetics had to come second to longevity and put about four layers of JB Weld on and it still wept at one point until the Wonderweld started to work. The reason mine seems to have craked in the first place was the anti-freeze I put in could not get to the bottom of gallery on the inside as it was so full of crud which I could only get too by getting the liners pulled out.

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Ross M, UK

01-14-2004 02:06:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Robert B, UK, 01-14-2004 01:21:47  
So after getting it running again it would probably be a good idea to strip engine down and clean out waterways and perhaps see about getting crack welded up. Any tips would be a great help.



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Robert B, UK

01-14-2004 04:48:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Ross M, UK, 01-14-2004 02:06:09  
Ross,

I can no say I'm an expert and I had to learn the hard way and this was a first time for me as I tried to keep costs to a minimum, but here is a quick resume of what I did working on the basis that the engine was not burning oil or smoking when I first got it home. The frost damage not only cracked the block but blew the head gasket by lifting the head:
- Got myself a good workshop manual (offered on CD on eBay)
- Remove all ancilliaries (starter, tank, manifold - use great care with this, dynamo, radiator etc.). Take notes as to what goes where, especially on the wiring side.
- I put big solid blocks of wood under engine and transmission - makes it easier to line up when putting it all back together and I have no lifting gear besides your normal hydraulic jack (x2)
- remove front axle. I found it easier to split the drag links at the axle end rather than steering box end. Radius arms removed at the gearbox end.
- Remove cyclinder head - mine appears to be OK if a bit sooty.
- split engine from gearbox by sliding apart but supported by the wooden blocks
- mark position of flywheel. I had a new starter ring fitted as a large proportion of the teeth where in the bell housing. This is had done at my local agricultural engineers as well as having the sleeves removed
- Remove and number the order of push rods
- Remove sump
- Mark where TDC on piston one is on the Crank hwwl and tining cover with a dab of paint - make it easier to find TDC and the dowel hole on the flywheel and crank casing. - Remove pistons - look a bit worn but did not replace (cost and I can always do this without splitting the engine at a later date. Remeber to number if thay are not.
- Mark orientation and position of the liners. Remove liners but I left the crank and camshaft in situ. My liners had to come out as they had sunk below the block surface.
- Sent off for welding.
Reassembly was a reverse procedure, notes as follows:
- The liners I replaced with some blue gasket sealent at the bottom. - I also put some JB weld on the inside of the crack. - I replaced the thrust bearing, pilot bearing, clutch and clutch housing.
- Sump and flywheel (+ clutch)all bolted to the block and eased back to the gearbox. I used some long bolts passed through the crank case flange to bell housing to help line up and bring the two bits together whilst turning the crankshaft to help line up the input shaft whith the clutch
- Put all the rest back on with new gaskets and a new home made wiring loom - the other lacked any insulation at various strategic points.
- The manifold I put on with some exhaust sealant where it was blowing due to corrosion
- Found TDC and followed the book on static timing etc. Set the tappets - I need to do them again when I retorque the cylinder head as everthing will have settled down a bit.
- Follow the book on setting the governer up - it reads a lot more difficult than it is, but I still need to rebuild (because it leaks) and adjust my carb
- Charge your battery, fill your tank, use new spark plugs, cross your fingers and try and start it! Mine started first time once I put in new plugs
- Do some victory laps of your field, then find you forgot to tighten the lock-nut on your choke knob! southern Counties do have them and thank you.

Good Luck!
Robert

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Ross M,UK

01-14-2004 07:03:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: TED 20 Choke Knob in reply to Robert B, UK, 01-14-2004 04:48:16  
No THANK YOU it seems you have helped me more than i have helped you.

Many Thanks
Ross



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