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Oil on brake shoes

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Phil-Australia

01-10-2004 12:46:19




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On my te-d 20 1951 the half shaft is leaking oil onto the brake shoes. Is there any way to stop this short of removing the half shaft,drilling the locking collar and replacing the seals. Is removal of the locking collar a specialist job?
Thanks Phil




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Peter, U.K.

01-11-2004 03:09:45




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 Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Phil-Australia, 01-10-2004 12:46:19  
Phil,
You dont need to remove the locking collar at all. There are two seals on each half shaft, an inner and an outer. The seal you need to replace is the inner, (part no 102648) which is easily done. I would get hold of a manual which will explain everything.



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Phil Hancock

01-11-2004 15:50:04




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 Re: Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Peter, U.K., 01-11-2004 03:09:45  
Peter,
The inner seal you are talking about is shown on the exploded drawing for parts at>Link
but>Link this is not shown in the workshop manual.

Can the seal be fitted successfully even if there was not one fitted originally. There is nothing on the inner side of the locking collar on the shaft I have just removed.

Phil

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Bill Boegemann

01-12-2004 20:36:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Phil Hancock, 01-11-2004 15:50:04  
I also have a TE20 with the oil /Brake problem. My manual states that the TO and TE20 models have only one seal on the outter end of the shaft and it requires removal of the press fit collar to replace it. That presents a part procurement problem. The art work for the TE 20 axle shaft housing shows no provision for a second seal. The TO 30s have the second seal



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Phil - Australia

01-13-2004 01:06:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Bill Boegemann, 01-12-2004 20:36:05  
Bill,
This caused me some confusion also. You are correct in that the manual does not show the oil seal. I have just dismantled the shaft and discovered that there is indeed a seal as Peter indicated. This is shown on the exploded view of the shaft at>Link
Replacement>Link seals are easy to obtain. My local dealer keeps them in stock !
As these are easy to replace I will change both.
Hope this helps.

Phil

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Bill

01-13-2004 10:05:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Phil - Australia, 01-13-2004 01:06:45  
Phil I was quoteing from the text of the manual as well as looking at the artwork when I said there is only one seal on T0and TE 20s. Could it be that the axle housing has been replaced? Is the other side the same? Maybe the S/N would give you a clue. In any case, I would just replace the inner seal if there is provision for it.



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Peter, U.K.

01-12-2004 02:20:38




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 Re: Re: Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Phil Hancock, 01-11-2004 15:50:04  
Phil,
Is there not a seal at the outer end of the axle housing - thats the one you should replace, just lever it out then tap in the new replacement. Grease the new seal then slide the half shaft back in, then bolt up.
Peter.



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Phil Hancock

01-13-2004 01:01:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Peter, U.K., 01-12-2004 02:20:38  
Peter,
You were right. I managed to pick up a second hand axle and shaft for $AUS220 This showed me the shaft without the seal. The confusion lay in the fact that the workshop manual does not show the inner seal. I will buy a new seal tomorrow from the local tractor dealer. They are readily available. It is easy to replace and I will also do the other side.
The dealer said another trick is not to fill the transmission past the minimum level.
Thanks again for your help
Phil

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Alvin n Ms.

01-12-2004 21:29:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Oil on brake shoes in reply to Peter, U.K., 01-12-2004 02:20:38  
Like Phil said its the outer seal. Just cut the retainer, and beering race off. Replace with new ones. Thats the way they do it in the tractor shop. alvinnms



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