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Overheating Followup

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Thomo

01-04-2004 21:53:06




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Hi Jerr/MT and Randy

Thought you might like to know where i am at with the overheating probloem.

I have adfjusted the carb settings and hav ealso checked the timing. Had to turn distributor approx 2mm clockwise to get timing correct for points agp setting of 15 thou. (Put new points in and are not sure what it was et to previously.)

Randy have taken up your suggestion to flush cooling suystem using vinegar.

Have just done that (used white vinegar so I should be able to see how dirty it gets) Run tractor at idle and accossionally at high revs for short bursts for approx 45 min. Did not overheat.

Am going away fro a few days so will flush out in the weekend .

I noticed that the book says the cooling system should take 8.5 litres. Only able to pour in 6 litres of vinegar. Howveer unable to drain using radiator tap and had to drain by removing bottom hose so guess that some fluid may have still b een in the system. If not then there may be a blockage somewhere. Time will tell.

Will get back to you early next week and let you know the outcome

Regards Thomo

PS hope you had a good new year celebration.

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Bill

01-25-2004 07:50:58




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 Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Thomo, 01-04-2004 21:53:06  
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Mr Chapp

01-12-2004 18:47:47




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 Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Thomo, 01-04-2004 21:53:06  
Sorry to be so late with this reply. There should be a plug in one side of the block for a drain. I've had to run a coat hanger around to get coolant to drain out. Hope this helps.



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Jerry/MT

01-07-2004 10:40:09




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 Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Thomo, 01-04-2004 21:53:06  
Thomo,
When you drained the cooling system, were you able to drain the block via the petcock on the bottom? If you didn't, you probably still have coolant left in the block so that's why you couldn't put the full capacity of the cooling system in. The other posts are correct. Setting the point comes first then you set the timing. Hope this helps.



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Ray,IN

01-05-2004 18:53:31




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 Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Thomo, 01-04-2004 21:53:06  
The distrubutor setting and the points setting are entirely different purposes. The distrubutor determines the actual engine valve timing. The points setting determines the duration of the spark and only slightly affects when the spark occurs. The points ideally should be set after the distrubutor is set correctly. The distrubutor should not be adjusted to obtain the correct points setting. You should be able to add very close to the specified amount to the cooling system or likely there is an obstruction, as these engines are made to completely drain.

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Thomo

01-05-2004 23:21:56




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 Re: Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Ray,IN, 01-05-2004 18:53:31  
Hi Ray

You have confused me

I understood that the distributor need to be set so the points open at TDC for No. 1 cylinder.

Isnt this governed by the gap setting. If the points gap is smaller (or larger) wouldnt they open at a different distributor position ????

Therefore dosnt the gap setting need to be correct before checking the timing.

Hope you understand what I mean

Thanks Thomo

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Thomo

01-09-2004 11:05:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Thomo, 01-05-2004 23:21:56  
Thanks Guys

Im away on holiday at the moment and have left the vinegar in the cooling system to soak.
I will be home in the next day or two and will run motor for 10 min then drain vinegar and replace with new coolant and go out and harrow the fields .

Will get back to you and let you know the results.

Used white vinegar so should be able to see how dirty it comes out when I drain it.

Happy holidays Thomo

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Bob F.

01-06-2004 15:58:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Thomo, 01-05-2004 23:21:56  
you are right Thomo. set points first then set timing.



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Ray,IN

01-06-2004 18:38:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Overheating Followup in reply to Bob F., 01-06-2004 15:58:55  
Do it Bob's way. I just quoted from a shop manual.



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