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TO-20 Rocker Pin Bushing - Stuck Tight

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Steve Putman

11-16-2003 16:35:01




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I'm beginning to think about dynamite! A while back I got a Rocker for the Hydraulic lift along with the bushing that goes into the differential housing and which holds the Rocker as well as various pins that go through it. I took that out of a derelict rear end of a TO-20 in a scrap yard. A few whacks with a hammer accompanied by some rust penetrant did it.

Now, I'm trying to put this replacement rocker on my TO-20, which requires removing the old bushing and rocker. It has been impossible. No amount of whacking of pins and bushings would get the old bushing out. Finally I cut off one arm of the old badly worn rocker and got clear access to the bushing which protruded from either side of the lug for it on top of the differential housing. Again, repeated whacking was useless. I tried to bung in the side of the bushing in the hope of opening a slight crack between it and the housing into which some rust penetrant could flow, and succeeded only in cracking off a bit of the end of the bushing.

I'm at my wit's end here. Has anybody got any good idea of how to get this thing out? My expected hour or so job has been holding me up for two weeks now.

Thanks.

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Craig42

01-24-2005 19:23:46




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 Re: TO-20 Rocker Pin Bushing - Stuck Tight in reply to Steve Putman, 11-16-2003 16:35:01  
I realize it has been a while since this question was asked, but here's how I did it this winter on my 1952 TO-30. Someone else is bound to run into this.

Drill a small hole into the top of the differential housing that surrounds the pin. Squirt PB Blaster in it frequently for several days. Next, heat it with a MAPP gas torch for 2 minutes & bang on the pin with a 3lb hammer. I had to use 2 hands because the fender was in the way and it was difficult to hit it hard & head-on. If it doesn"t come out, let it cool. Spray more PB Blaster several times a day into the hole and around on the ends. Heat it up and beat it some more taking care to only hit the pin.

I thought I had it when the pin came out. But it didn"t drive out the sleeve the supports the rocker arm and covers the joint in the pin. That only stuck out 1". To get this out, use more PB Blaster, put a socket that is the same size as the sleeve on a 6" extension through the outer "ear" that the pin goes through, then beat the crap out of it! This way you can drive the sleeve out (and put it back in after you grease it). I used vice grips on the extension to keep it from falling off so I could use 2 hands on the hammer. If the fender was off, this wouldn"t be an issue because I could really hit it then.

Propane won"t work. Neither will WD-40 or liquid wrench.

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Mr Chapp

11-21-2003 17:55:30




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 Re: TO-20 Rocker Pin Bushing - Stuck Tight in reply to Steve Putman, 11-16-2003 16:35:01  
As much as I hate to use heat, this may be your only choice. Heat with butane or accetyline torch, and apply oil in conjunction wih reasonable force. Good luck.



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john(UK)

11-22-2003 11:25:22




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 Re: Re: TO-20 Rocker Pin Bushing - Stuck Tight in reply to Mr Chapp, 11-21-2003 17:55:30  
I only remember having to change one of those once and it was no problem, but then the tractors were much newer then, maybe not as much rust. I do know of someone who did try to change one with the special puller made for the job, but it was tight like this one and it broke the lug that the long hinged pin goes through, clean off the axle housing, don't ask me what the guy was doing to do that, possibly brute force and ignorance I would think.(lots of ignorance)

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Jim W

11-17-2003 06:39:37




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 Re: TO-20 Rocker Pin Bushing - Stuck Tight in reply to Steve Putman, 11-16-2003 16:35:01  
Add heat and persistence to what you are already doing.
If you still have somewhere left to do this, see if you can get some vice grips clamped on (really tight of course) and try to rotate it. As soon as it moves at all, you're on your way.
Jim



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Jim W

11-20-2003 04:47:18




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 Re: Re: TO-20 Rocker Pin Bushing - Stuck Tight in reply to Jim W, 11-17-2003 06:39:37  
After reading your note again I see my vice grip comment doesn't make sense. I was picturing the long pin stuck in the bushing (which is the problem I had - then the pin and bushing came out together - never did get them separated).
How about trying to split it with a cold chisel? Even if you manage to collapse one side of it in a bit toward the centre, you will have a spot where more penetrating oil can get in.
Jim

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