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Sump oil in brake drum TEA-20

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Steve

10-12-2003 14:29:48




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My recently purchased TEA-20 has oil-contaminated brake-linings. (Not unusual) But the oil is too thin and black for my liking. I suspect it is sump oil.
1) Is this used sump-oil?
2) Could the correct, 90-grade oil stop the leak?
3) Can the grease-nipple at the back of the brake back-plate help seal the axle?
I am asking this because I don't want my freshly re-lined brake shoes to suffer the same problem..
Steve

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john(UK)

10-12-2003 14:44:04




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 Re: Sump oil in brake drum TEA-20 in reply to Steve, 10-12-2003 14:29:48  
No way can it be sump oil...it would have to pass through the transmission for it to get there. 90 weight oil in USA or sae50 in UK would help if the oil is thin, but more than likely the seals have worn from what you say. you dont say what the serial # of your tractor is, but prior to 343,043 there is an extra seal that you can retro fit (its called Sure Seals)after that number you will have to rework the axle shaft to fit new seals to cure the leak.If your tractor has a grease nipple fitted as you seem to be saying it will be of the later type and really you shouldnt be getting a leak, unless the lubrication has been neglected and the bearing is now worn which would cause the leak.

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Steve

10-13-2003 04:32:54




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 Re: Re: Sump oil in brake drum TEA-20 in reply to john(UK), 10-12-2003 14:44:04  
Thanks, John.

Re Sump oil I was meaning that a prior owner may have filled the rear with used sump drainings to save money. The oil is black and thin, so that's the only explanation I can think of.

My TEA is a 428046.

Steve



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john(UK)

10-13-2003 11:06:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Sump oil in brake drum TEA-20 in reply to Steve, 10-13-2003 04:32:54  
Made in very late 1954.
Ok I got what you mean now. well you definitley need to change the oil, do it when its warm if you can so it will wash out all the accumulated filth thats in there and refill it with SAE40/50 oil in UK or 80 weight oil if you are in USA or Canada, Straight Mineral oil though not the multi-grade stuff. From empty it will take 5gallons in UK or 24 US quarts. its recommeneded you change it every 750 hours.

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Jim W

10-13-2003 10:28:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Sump oil in brake drum TEA-20 in reply to Steve, 10-13-2003 04:32:54  
I think if you pull the axles and replace the seals, and bearings if necessary, you will then be OK. I would definitely replace the oil in the rear end as it's the same stuff that's going through your hydraulic system (and shouldn't e black).
(Note if you are having trouble with the two big slot-head screws in the brake drum you don't really have to remove it, just undo the six nuts behind the backing plate and the axle will slide out. Keep track of the shims.)
Jim W
PS If your shoes have lots of lining left you can heat them up with a flame and evaporate off the oil.

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