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delane hawkins

06-22-2003 18:36:09




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I have a 1953 to30 ferguson.I noticed my steering was getting hard to turn so i took plug out on gear box and noticed it was dry i poured gear oil in and noticed it was coming out of lower housing. there are like two cotter pins sticking out from inside out is that normal. i took off my transmission plug cap that is beside gear selecter and noticed it was a little dry what do you put in the gear box or what are the cotter pins sticking out the bottom any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Mimi Halgren

01-30-2004 11:41:43




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 Re: steering gear box in reply to delane hawkins, 06-22-2003 18:36:09  
Did anyone ever respond to your question about what to put in your steering box? If not, you might want to check out my web page. I sell a semi-fluid steering box grease that is just what you need- thick enough to protect the box yet fluid enough to flow to all parts of the box. Address is www.9GWoman.com.
Mimi



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Chuck

06-30-2003 15:18:55




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 Re: steering gear box in reply to delane hawkins, 06-22-2003 18:36:09  
Can anyone tell me the trick to lining up the steering column gear with the gear inside the housing ??



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Phil (VA)

06-23-2003 06:31:53




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 Re: steering gear box in reply to delane hawkins, 06-22-2003 18:36:09  
If I'm understanding the problem, and I'm thinking as David, then the only way you can put gear oil in the steering box and have it come out where the cotter pin is located is for the steering box to have a hole in the bottom of its reservoir. Also, this situation will leak oil onto the clutch I suspect. If David and I are understanding correctly, you need to bite the bullet and pull the steering box and repair the crack or hole. You also may need to replace your clutch. Pulling the steering box is cumbersome but not terribly difficult. The main problem is getting the dash stuff removed. Take it slow. Here's hoping the clutch is ok. By the way, if the steering box has a hole in the bottom, it likely is because water got inside somehow. How are the bearings up at the top? If much water got inside, it could have frozen and cracked the reservoir. New steering boxes are unavailable, but used ones can be had, although most sellers are real proud of them....

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Jeff-oh

06-23-2003 05:50:39




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 Re: steering gear box in reply to delane hawkins, 06-22-2003 18:36:09  
Yes the cotter pin is ment to be there per what David said.

As for Tans.-Hydo. Oil This has been debated her about every 3 to 4 months a quick search will lead you to good info. Basicly... Use 90 wt. straight mineral oil. (GL-1 rating) the more common trans-hydo (GL-5) is reported to be hard on the transmission berrings. Also see Big Dean's website on the oil issue.

Jeff



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jeff

06-22-2003 18:56:37




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 Re: steering gear box in reply to delane hawkins, 06-22-2003 18:36:09  
i was told to use grease in the steering box along with oil,because the seals leak and the grease will not leak like the oil



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David UK

06-23-2003 01:48:32




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 Re: Re: steering gear box in reply to jeff, 06-22-2003 18:56:37  
If I'm understanding correctly, the cotter pin you mention is in a hole in the bottom of the clutch bellhousing and is just a "jiggle pine" which is there to keep the hole free from dirt and open. Hole itself is to let any oil that leaks past engine rear oil seal or gearbox front seal, drain out. If you are getting oil running out of it you have a bad seal somewhere. (Nothing should come out of it apart from the occassional drip if all is in good condition.) If its actually running out when yoy fill oil somewhere then either the gearbox seal is totally knackered or you're pouring oil in where it shouldn't go. When you look in the gearbox filler plug you should see the oil level just about half way up the gears. If it runs out of teh clutch housing when you fill there, you have a gearbox seal problem. Steering box lubrication is totally separate from gearbox.

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David UK

06-23-2003 01:54:38




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 Re: Re: Re: steering gear box in reply to David UK, 06-23-2003 01:48:32  
This may be a daft question, but are you quite sure oil is not running down the side of the transmission casing and dripping off of the cotter pin? Short of an internal crack I can't think how oil could get from steering box into clutch housing. There is some confusion about what goes in back end as terminolgy for oil weights seems to be different from UK to US. Rather than mislead I'll let someone else give a local recommendation for the type of oil.

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