Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Discussion Forum
:

Plowing with a TO-20

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
RichZ

06-16-2003 10:48:53




Report to Moderator

I was using a Dearborne two-bottom plow on my TO-20's three point hitch to plow my garden. Sometimes the tractor's wheels would just spin after about 5 feet of plowing. Sometimes I could go over 50 feet without a problem. I adjusted the top link many times, and it didn't help much. I would just lift the plow on the three point hitch and go again, until I got bogged down again.

I know my Fergie was designed to use a two bottom plow, in fact the Fergie logo has a Fergie with a two bottom plow on it. My Fergie is running fine, and has agricultural tires on it.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks!!!

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
john(UK)

06-16-2003 15:05:28




Report to Moderator
 Re: Plowing with a TO-20 in reply to RichZ, 06-16-2003 10:48:53  
Make sure your top link rocker or the internal linkage hasnt siezed up. If it siezes up there will be no sensing down the top link, therefore, no weight transfer. We have had this quite recently here and I did mention that it was possible that the plough being used was not a category 1 implement, if you try to use Cat 2 the angle the top link pushes at will be wrong so it will be hard to sense like it should do...the way to check it if you dont have a Cat 1 implement is put the plough into work and look at the line of the top link, if you follow the line through to the front of the tractor it should hit the floor somewhere around the front axle, if its cat 2 it will hit the floor somewhere around the gearbox or clutch and it will not work correctly. Also if its Cat 2 the plough could be just a little too heavy for what you are doing and the weight of the plough is being carried on the ground and there is nothing being sensed through the top link coz in effect the weight is just balanced by the ground. The common fault was the rocker being siezed so try that first. Make sure the plough is set something like right when u do all this too, set the front furrow width as well. Cant give any more info on the plough coz we dont know what it is, but if you need to know more, just ask.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
PAUL F B

06-16-2003 20:53:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Plowing with a TO-20 in reply to john(UK), 06-16-2003 15:05:28  
John; You said "Make sure your top link rocker or the internal linkage hasnt siezed up", how does one make this determination? Thanks Paul



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
James, UK

06-17-2003 01:23:35




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Plowing with a TO-20 in reply to PAUL F B, 06-16-2003 20:53:26  
Paul,
It was John and I who were having the discussion - and I think I can answer your question as I checked mine for operation and adjustment a few months ago.

With no implement mounted on the back, put a clevis pin through the top link (hinged) bracket, then place a two or three foot length of steel bar (vertically) so that you can lever the top link forwards (towards the driver). This simulates what the plough should be doing when it hits hard ground, and the lower links should begin to lift in response. You may not see any appreciable movement on the link, but the arms should lift anyway in response to what movement there is.

Having checked that that part of the system works, the next thing to do is to mount the plough on the tractor, and lift it off the ground. Then, try to rotate the compression spring which is at the back of the top link. If it is loose, and turns easily, you will need to tighten it, if you can just and only just turn it, it is fine, and if you can't turn it at all, it is too tight.

To adjust the spring compression - undo the top hinged link, and rotate the connector on the shaft at the end of the spring - it may be stuck - DO NOT FORCE IT!!!!! patience and lots of PB blaster, heat, and time will be needed as the threads are very fine, and when rusted, they really stick. Forcing it will cause damage inside the hydraulics, and you will then have another problem to deal with that has no new spares available. TIP - if you get it freed up, remove it completely, and coat the threads with lots of copper-based grease to stop it sticking again.

Then, with the plough only just off the ground go to the back end of the plough and heave it up a bit. The tractor should sense this, and lift the plough for you.

See also this link for other hints and tips. The quadrant adjustment is also critical, and is incredibly sensitive to adjustment - start with this before diving into the above adjustments - you could save time and effort.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
PAUL F B

06-17-2003 08:58:04




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Plowing with a TO-20 in reply to James, UK, 06-17-2003 01:23:35  
James; Thank you very much-will do. Paul



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Phil (VA)

06-16-2003 13:51:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Plowing with a TO-20 in reply to RichZ, 06-16-2003 10:48:53  
So much depends on soil type, moisture, whether it has been plowed before, etc., that it's hard to tell from afar. As you undoubtedly have figured out, the more you tighten the top link, the quicker the points go into the soil and the deeper the plow wants to go. You didn't say what size double bottom plow you have, whether it is a 12 in., 14 in., or 16 in. Your tractor should pull the first two of those just fine in decent soil, but if it's the latter that might be a stretch in clay. The measurement is across the beams. The other factor is rear wheel weight. Fluid in the rear tires helps plowing a great deal. Maybe some of that is food for thought. Others probably have useful info.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Gary F

06-16-2003 21:05:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Plowing with a TO-20 in reply to Phil (VA), 06-16-2003 13:51:26  
There is a nice little article over in the research and info section of this website (left side grey header) on preparing a seed bed you may find some assistance there or in some of the other articles that have been submitted.
Good reading

Gary



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy