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Researching First Owner

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James, UK

05-12-2003 07:45:13




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My TED 20-85 came with its original 'buff' United Kingdom registration documents from 1951, and the first owner was one 'Countess of Midleton', wife of the Earl of Midleton, then living at Eastwell Park (now Eastwell Manor Hotel) near Ashford in Kent.

I thought it would be a nice touch to discover more about this lady, and it turns out that she was born Irene Lilian, or Lilian Irene Creese, and was an actress - she used the stage name of Ren� Ray in the late 1920's and onwards to post-war.

I have been able to find a list of films she starred in, but am wondering if any of you over in the US (where many of her films were made) can tell me anything more about her, or post any useful links.

Sadly, she died in Jersey in 1993, her husband died in the mid 1970's and I don't think there were any children - so that line of enquiry is blank.

Any info gratefully received.

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Carole

09-22-2003 05:27:26




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 Re: Researching First Owner in reply to James, UK, 05-12-2003 07:45:13  
I think you have the incorrect person. The Earl of Midleton did not marry Rene Ray until 1975. Prior to that the Countess was Genevive Gould.



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Bob Weber

05-13-2003 06:29:01




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 Re: Researching First Owner in reply to James, UK, 05-12-2003 07:45:13  
Here's a link from the Internet Movie DataBase that has her entire film history.

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Ray,+Ren%E9



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James, UK

05-13-2003 07:12:57




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 Re: Re: Researching First Owner in reply to Bob Weber, 05-13-2003 06:29:01  
Thanks Bob



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George (American who lived in the UK)

05-12-2003 13:58:21




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 Re: Researching First Owner in reply to James, UK, 05-12-2003 07:45:13  
That information is most interesting....not many owners of Fergusons will find such an interesting story about their tractor.

Perhaps you should put some sort of "Royal-like" insignia on your tractor.



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James, UK

05-13-2003 01:36:16




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 Re: Re: Researching First Owner in reply to George (American who lived in the UK), 05-12-2003 13:58:21  
I was thinking more of a small display board that I could use if I ever get round to showing the tractor.

Initially I thought the first owner thing was a bit of a joke, but it is a bit different. I will need to be a bit less cavalier in my approach to maintaining the tractor, I think, and perhaps change back from my nice 80 Amp alternator and 12V system to the original dynamo and 6V system.

Strange to think that this lady may have driven 'my' tractor . . . .

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George

05-13-2003 05:24:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Researching First Owner in reply to James, UK, 05-13-2003 01:36:16  
Yes, I suppose a display board would be in better taste.

I used to live in an oast house on a farm near Edenbridge. I worked near Leigh (Tonbridge area). I often went to the farm and ploughing shows in the area and saw plenty of nice Fergusons. I learned there was more skill to farm operations than is apparent.

I don't know Ashford very well except I used to catch the train there for Brussels.

Good thing I can get Fullers London Pride here, otherwise I'd have to move back to the UK!

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George

05-13-2003 05:24:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Researching First Owner in reply to James, UK, 05-13-2003 01:36:16  
Yes, I suppose a display board would be in better taste.

I used to live in an oast house on a farm near Edenbridge. I worked near Leigh (Tonbridge area). I often went to the farm and ploughing shows in the area and saw plenty of nice Fergusons. I learned there was more skill to farm operations than is apparent.

I don't know Ashford very well except I used to catch the train there for Brussels.

Good thing I can get Fullers London Pride here, otherwise I'd have to move back to the UK!

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James, UK

05-13-2003 05:50:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Researching First Owner in reply to George, 05-13-2003 05:24:02  
Ah, so you would have gone to the Oxted & Edenbridge Agricultural Show, then?

I used to do the odd dog obedience show there - always good for a laugh - especially the border collies retrieving raw eggs!!

London Pride is good, but I think that Shepherd Neame's 'Spitfire' (I seem to remember their ad banner was - "Downed all over Kent, just like the real thing") is better, given the choice.

Good to know some of our heathen ways (warm, flat beer)are infiltrating the US!!

Way off topic - better stop here.

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Peter, U.K.

05-14-2003 02:15:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Researching First Owner in reply to James, UK, 05-13-2003 05:50:18  
James, Youre slightly wrong with the ad banner. If my memory serves me well it was downed all over Kent - just like the luftwaffe!!
Peter



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David Layne

05-14-2003 02:48:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Researching First Owner in reply to Peter, U.K., 05-14-2003 02:15:42  
Spitfire Beer, no Fokker can touch it. Thats the way I remember it.



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