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TO20 jams in gear

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rick in nh

01-06-2003 06:26:55




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I have a plow on the front of my TO20, and I find that I have to pull the tractor out of gear before the resistance of the snow forces me to a stop. If forward motion stops when the tractor is under strain, I cannot then get it out of gear and I have to shut off the engine, jack up one of the rear wheels, let it turn to relieve the strain on the transmission, then I can pull it out of gear and restart the engine and shift into reverse. Is this normal???? Is my clutch gone?? It doesn't slip.

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Joe Ferguson

01-06-2003 17:04:58




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 Re: TO20 jams in gear in reply to rick in nh, 01-06-2003 06:26:55  
Hi Rick

It should be as simple as pushing down the hydraulic
control...prior to attempt to move the shift lever
when the hydraulic is lifting the pump puts a strain on the PTO shaft which is mechanically conected to transmission.

On my TEA-20 if the hydraulic is on its way up
and I depress the clutch sometimes it is impossible to move the shifter...in these situations I push down the hydraulic control
put transmission in neutral release clutch pedal and then lift the grader.

Hope it helps


Joe Ferguson

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Duner Wi

01-06-2003 14:54:36




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 Re: TO20 jams in gear in reply to rick in nh, 01-06-2003 06:26:55  
If you can't shift to neutral , disengage the PTO via the lever. I have never had an instance where I could not get the PTO to disengage under such circumstances, tho I see James has.
Good luck.



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RichZ

01-06-2003 11:48:55




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 Re: TO20 jams in gear in reply to rick in nh, 01-06-2003 06:26:55  
That happened to me a few weeks ago while plowing snow with my TO-20 with a backblade. My load of snow got too big (I was going uphill), and the wheels started slipping. I stopped it to put it in reverse, and the gears were jammed. I stopped it, and let it sit for a few minutes while I tried to figure out what to do. I couldn't think of anything, so I started it up again, and I was able to switch gears again. I still don't know what happened!

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James, UK

01-06-2003 07:04:37




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 Re: TO20 jams in gear in reply to rick in nh, 01-06-2003 06:26:55  
Morning Rick,

I get the same problem on my TED if I've stalled the tractor when mowing/hogging - but only if the stall was caused by the mower getting hung up. Then I can't disconnect the PTO using the lever, and I can't get out of gear, either. The problem, as you have found, is that with the trans. torqued, the gears lock. And no, even with your foot on the clutch, it won't come out of gear.

My question is this, is your plough a straight blade, or does it incorporate a thrower? If so, how is the thrower driven? Could that cause the trans to torque up through the PTO? Is there a chance there could be a load on the hydraulics causing a similar effect?

I think it's a 'normal' problem on TOs/TEs, and I've only now learnt to disengage the PTO before the whole thing grinds to a halt - then you don't get the problem.

If you can stall the tractor, there's nothing wrong with your clutch!!

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