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How's the Z134 compared to the Z129?

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Chuck (CA)

07-13-2002 22:47:30




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Since my TO30 is broken to the point of being cost prohibitve to fix (Cracks all over the engine), I have some questions.,,
I found a Fergy for sale that visually looks good. No emblems, but the engine is a Z134, so I'm assuming it's a TO35; Am i right? It's a lot bigger than my '30, and has a proofmeter (2035 hours) and a step up/down tranny. 3 speed with both brake pedals on the right. Tin is OK, front tires look almost new, backs are cracked and checked, but hold air. Small leaks around where the trannny meets the engine. He's asking 3,000. I haven't heard it run, but the fluids look good.
NOW, Is the Z134 as prone to cracks as bad as the Z129 is? I'm a little gun shy about the Continental due to my recent experience with the Z129. My block was cracked and welded in the past and broke really bad this time. Also, the bozo who rebuilt it last time didn't put any thrust washers on the crank and it now has a 1/4 inch groove in the back of the block caused by the crank sliding back and forth.
Any and all input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx in advance,
Chuck (CA)

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Fred OH

07-17-2002 09:26:35




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 Re: How's the Z134 compared to the Z129? in reply to Chuck (CA), 07-13-2002 22:47:30  
Chuck, The place that used to be C T Farm and Country in Des Moines, Iowa used to sell a completely rebuilt block assy. for less than 2K, that is...if you're in love with the TO-30...and the rest of it is in good shape. Be nice to have a completely rebuilt engine. Just some wrenches and a couple of rattle cans of gray paint. That isn't much money when you compare it to the price of a new tractor. (AND YOU SAVED ONE OF THE LITTLE GRAY JEWELS) L8R....Fred OH

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Chuck (CA)

07-16-2002 20:02:17




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 Re: How's the Z134 compared to the Z129? in reply to Chuck (CA), 07-13-2002 22:47:30  
Thank you both for your replies. Good info. Fred, I remember you telling me about your repair on yours before. I believe you welded and pinned it both if my memory serves me correctly. My big problem is I don't have the equipment or the expertise to do that. So, I'm at the mercy of the local machine shop. In magnafluxing the block, he found cracks all over the place and quoted $2100 to fix and repair. I have trouble spending as much on the repair as I did on the tractor. Also, the head (Which is in good shape} is off a TO20. So, to make a long story short, I'm looking for another one and will probably part this one out.

Thanks again,
Chuck

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Fred OH

07-15-2002 07:07:31




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 Re: How's the Z134 compared to the Z129? in reply to Chuck (CA), 07-13-2002 22:47:30  
Hi Chuck, Could also be a MF-35, they had the Z134 too. The tag on the dash any help? Tell us about the "really bad cracks". I'd like to know when one is too bad to weld. I've had 'em with cracks on 3 mains and a bolt through the block to hold a crack between two cylinders with a little weld on top to hold the head gasket. I weld 'em up and put a can of stop leak type stuff in and run it. Cold welding with ni-rod (after veeing)and peening good with a small ball pein hammer immediately after welding and weld no more than 3/4" at a time. Then it requires some precise die grinding, especially on the head surface and down in the cylinder bores where the o-rings are. It's mostly done by feel and eyeball to get the weld to blend with the parent metal. Draw filing with a smooth single cut flat file to finish the head surface. If you got a good repair welder around, take a chance, Columbus did and he didn't even have a spare propeller. L8R....Fred OH

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Gregg/Ohio

07-17-2002 20:32:22




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 Re: Re: How's the Z134 compared to the Z129? in reply to Fred OH, 07-15-2002 07:07:31  
I have a 1959 TO-35. it is a real workhorse, I feel the Z134 is a very durable engine,I have never had her apart,still runs perfect,no smoke at all.BUT...just like the TO-20,and the TO-30 Just dont overheat them.Gregg/Oh.



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Phil (VA)

07-15-2002 06:26:31




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 Re: How's the Z134 compared to the Z129? in reply to Chuck (CA), 07-13-2002 22:47:30  
Both the TO-35 and F-40 used the Z134 engine. It is a better engine in my opinion than the Z129. And the whole tractor is better. As you pointed out, the brake design is more modern and it has a hi-low tranny, a tractometer, and very important, it has factory position control. His price is reasonable, not dirt cheap, but reasonable. I bought one in similar condition a couple of years ago for $2900. Even if you have to put rear tires on it, you are ok, all else being equal. But you do need to drive it to be sure...!

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