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6 to 12v. conversion

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Ben

09-10-2000 14:07:38




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I am wanting to change over my "H" from a 6v. generator to a 12v. alternator setup. I was wondering what all needs to be done to complete it. Also does anyone have a suggestion of company to go though with the best price and ease of conversion?? Any help on this one is greatly appreciated.




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Bob M

09-10-2000 16:13:59




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 Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to Ben, 09-10-2000 14:07:38  
Hey Ben - Saw an H at a tractor show this weekend with a Delco internally-regulated alternator installed. It was a tight squeeze under the hood, but it can be done! The owner had wired it up per my diagram and it was working great.

Good luck with your conversion!

Bob M



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Andy Martin

09-10-2000 14:28:33




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 Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to Ben, 09-10-2000 14:07:38  
The easiest route is with an alternator with an internal regulator set up for "one wire" operation. That means you hook a hot wire to the alternator and it will charge properly.

Your local starter/generator shop will have these. They are used on all kinds of diesel heavy equipment and tractor retrofits.

If you are set up for positive ground you need to switch and make the negative ground for most alternators.

Then you need to put a resistor in the hot wire to the coil to convert the coil feed back to 6v.

Change the bulbs and you are in business.

The starter likes 12v, will spin fast and not overheat, and doesn't care which pole is grounded on the battery.

You have to be careful building the generator mounts both to get the belt to line up and to get the alternator completely under the hood. It is possible but takes some effort. The belt length is critical because you won't have much adjustment room.

I have one Farmall with a Japanese alternator on it. It is smaller even than a D.C. generator but they are expensive.

If you don't use a "one wire" alternator you need to know the standard alternator is switched off on cars. If you leave power to it on a tractor, the field coil will drain your battery. If you put it on the coil side of the switch, the alternator will keep the coil hot and the switch doesn't kill the tractor. A second switch works but is not ideal. I have two tractors with two switches and invariably when someone else uses them they either forget to turn on the alternator or turn it off. Both are hard on the battery.

I hope someone else tells you where to find aftermarket mounts cause I would buy some. I have a good design, maybe I should make up 100 to sell.

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The Red

09-10-2000 14:17:20




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 Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to Ben, 09-10-2000 14:07:38  
Ben punch below for Bob M's wiring diagram. He should be on later to give you precise directions.

If you want to keep the tradtional look, you can have that 6 volt generator converted to 12 volts. The conversion plus a new Delco Remy 12V regulator would cost around $125.

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Andy Martin

09-10-2000 14:39:25




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 Re: Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to The Red, 09-10-2000 14:17:20  
Thanks for the wiring diagram.

Anyone can follow that!



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Ben

09-10-2000 16:37:22




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 Re: Re: Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to Andy Martin, 09-10-2000 14:39:25  
Bob it has been years since i have done a conversion and the schematic looks great!!!



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Brian in MO

09-10-2000 14:43:03




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 Re: Re: Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to Andy Martin, 09-10-2000 14:39:25  
Yea thats worth making a copy of



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babe

10-27-2003 00:49:49




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to Brian in MO, 09-10-2000 14:43:03  
i have a farmall 140 1960 model.i have a chyster
altanator that dont have a built in regulator.need
a eiring diagram to wire it up thanks



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The Red

09-10-2000 14:42:34




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 Re: Re: Re: 6 to 12v. conversion in reply to Andy Martin, 09-10-2000 14:39:25  
Thank Bob M. for taking the time to scribble that up. BTW, come on over to Tales and throw us some stories. Throw me a quick email for a suggested handle.



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