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Nich

08-21-2000 19:28:45




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I have a belly pump that leaks under preasure. The fluid comes out of the shaft driving the pump. should i take it down? what is the easiest way to take it down? thanks in advance.




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Bob R

08-27-2000 06:43:20




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 Re: Belly pump on H in reply to Nich, 08-21-2000 19:28:45  
I lowered the pump with a floor jack . Was a balanceing act , but worked .



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Nick

08-22-2000 13:11:21




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 Re: Belly pump on H in reply to Nich, 08-21-2000 19:28:45  
Thank you all for the advise Now another question. Is it possable to put a pump off a super H that runs off the distributer shaft on a regular H? what is the difference in psi between this and a belly pump?



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The Red

08-22-2000 13:31:05




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 Re: Re: Belly pump on H in reply to Nick, 08-22-2000 13:11:21  
It can be done. I believe it was Wardner that mentioned the psi at around 1,100. Someone else mentioned that something on the H is prone to breaking which runs the pump, which was beefed up on the Super H. Mind is going.....



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Jon

08-22-2000 14:02:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Belly pump on H in reply to The Red, 08-22-2000 13:31:05  
I think they said you have to put a camshaft gear from a SH or 300 on it.



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The Red

08-22-2000 05:17:58




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 Re: Belly pump on H in reply to Nich, 08-21-2000 19:28:45  
John about said it all. The pump and reservoir way around 100 pounds. After you have dropped the liftall, remove the pump assembly. It bolts into the reservoir assembly with around 10 bolts or so. Once the pump assembly is out, stick a large screwdriver up the inlet port so the counter shaft will not turn. Then unscrew the coupler counterclockwise. You can then pry out the old seal and replace it. In all you will need a seal and the reservoir gasket.

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Haas

08-22-2000 05:49:43




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 Re: Re: Belly pump on H in reply to The Red, 08-22-2000 05:17:58  
I would think that sticking a screw driver in the inlet port to hold the gears to unscrew the coupling would damage the pump gears. I know for sure that it will if the coupling is as hard to get off as the one was on my MD. I ended up taking the pump apart. I tried holding the gear between blocks of wood in a vise and hammering the coupling with a bar in it. Still no luck. The blocks just walked out of the vise. I finally used a hole saw to cut a hole the size of the gear in a two inch thick piece of oak. I split that down the center of the hole and cut off about 1/2 inch more to clear the other gear shaft. Then I clamped the gear in the vise with that. It took about 10 hard blows with a 1 lb hammer to break the coupling loose.

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Haas

08-22-2000 05:53:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Belly pump on H in reply to Haas, 08-22-2000 05:49:43  
By the way, I forgot to add. You have to take the pump out of the reservoir to get to the inlet port. Getting it back in there properly hooked to the control lever is real tricky! I went through all this replacing the shaft seal on my MD belly pump. It works great now, getting 800 psi plus and does not leak anymore.



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The Red

08-22-2000 07:17:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Belly pump on H in reply to Haas, 08-22-2000 05:53:58  
I guess I have been lucky. I have redone 5 liftalls and never had a problem getting the coupler off. Your right about installing the pump and getting it connected to the inside lever arm. I had that problem on the 51 H last year.



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john d

08-21-2000 21:03:29




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 Re: Belly pump on H in reply to Nich, 08-21-2000 19:28:45  
The belly pump is heavier than you may expect. Remove the lift lever, the pipe ports on both sides of the tractor, and the filler pipe. Then the access plate at the back of the pump on the bottom of the tractor. This will give you access to the drive coupler on the rear of the pump and front of the transmission shaft. The coupler may have a cotter key in it with a removeable square drive key which makes re-installation easier. Once all that is past, remove two bolts from the bottom of the pump on opposite corners. If you are working by yourself, you may want to consider installing 2 pieces of 12" long threaded rod and a couple of nuts (with flat washers) on them into the empty holes. This will allow you to remove the two remaining bolts and lower the pump by unthreading the nuts on the the threaded rods. (NOTE: when installing the threaded rods, use two nuts jammed together to allow you to tighten the rods into the holes so they do NOT back out when lowering the pump!) When the pump is held by the nuts on the rods, remove the last two bolts and lower the pump safely. If you have a strong friend to help, you may skip the part about the threaded rods and support the pump as it comes out. Don't let this thing suddenly drop on your foot, or worse yet, your head!

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