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656, 706 or 806

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Bigsky

05-15-2008 18:56:57




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In your opinion, which of these models would be the best fit for a 20 acre hobby farm. It will replace my M and be used for moldboard plowing, haying, plowing alot of snow, etc. There is one of each of these for sale nearby for about the same price, but I can't decide which would be best. I am leaning towards the 806, but am worried about it being too big and clumbsy for my little place. How does the D361 do for fuel consumption compared to the D282? Does it start good in the cold? Anything you can tell me to help me decide would be great.

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Bigsky

05-16-2008 11:55:40




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
Thanks for all the good info guys.

I should have added that all 3 of these tractors have block heaters- will that make them all start about the same in cold weather? Like you guys pointed out, the M is a great tractor and will start down to about 0 degrees F without plugging it in!

As far as the turning and overall handling goes, am I right in thinking the 656 is much more nimble than the 06's?

Any tips for spotting an engine on it way out...Like how much smoke out the pipe and breather is normal, etc.

Thanks again for the education!

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Hoss in Me

05-16-2008 06:40:51




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
Im with Allan. Hoss



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Allan In NE

05-16-2008 05:06:45




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
20 acres? I'd keep the M.

Allan



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Bigsky

05-16-2008 11:17:17




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Allan In NE, 05-16-2008 05:06:45  
Allen,

You are right, the M does just fine for a lot of what I do. The main thing it cannot do is summer/fall plow in the dry sod (with 2 14's), so I am stuck doing it in the spring when things are still pretty wet and I worry about compaction. Which leads to another question- will any of these tractors pull a subsoiler to bust up that hard layer beneath the plowing depth? Snow plowing is often a struggle with the M as well- Too much snow and not enough tractor...

Thanks to all for the advice...and keep it coming!

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the tractor vet

05-15-2008 21:03:20




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
Its like this the 806 is by far the best of the best, But it is alot of tractor . also keep in mind here that when a 806 does go down you better have a big piggy bank to fix it.. A 706 is a nother good tractor , BUT here again like others have said they can have problems with the head . Now the D282 will start cold IF the glow plugs are all working and in good shape along with starter and batterys . You did not say if the 656 was a diesle or a gasser , IF it is a diesel same thing applys on it on both the 706 and the 656 a block heater will be a big plus in winter . and even on the 806 . For a 806 to start in cold weather everything MUST be wright . We are talking sound engine good injection pump and injectors and good batterys . For twenty acres of hobby farming myself i would go with a gasser as they start in all weather alot less to repair the engine and just about anybody can work on the engine . The only thing that ya need to keep in mind here is to get the best performance out of the 6 cyl. gas they NEED 93 octain gas and i just know some know it all is going to spout up , well i run the cheap stuff in mine . Well i know more about these tractor then 99% of the people on here and spent alot of years working on them . It also states in the operators manual that MIN. FUEL REQUIREMENTS is 93 on them . With the cost of diesel there is no real advantage in my book for hobby farming . A set of plugs points and cond. once a year is cheap compared to and injection pump . Now as for the amount of fuel a 806 will suck up per hourmine will eat 5-7 gal. and hour under the plow running first high in corn ground and in sod all depends on how tough it is may go up to 7 gal per hour in forth low . on the planter 3-4 . My buddys 706 gasser with the 281 will run wright with the 806 and burn real close to the same pulling the same type plow. all depends on just how hard ya work them .

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Curt W.

05-15-2008 20:19:10




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
The D282 is very good on fuel and would be a nice step up for your equipment that you already have. An 806 is alot bigger tractor. One thing to look for on a D282 is a cracked head. Most of them out there are cracked and good luck finding a replacement. I have a 560 and 660 with cracked heads. When I overhauled both of mine, I used the best I could find. Neither tractor has given me any trouble and they're used almost daily.

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:RIVIR

05-15-2008 20:04:04




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
if you had all 3 tractors in your yard at one time , and it was a cool brisk winter day and you had to start a tractor, the 806 would be the only one that would start , without being plugged into a block heater:~)



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KRUSS1

05-16-2008 07:08:24




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to :RIVIR, 05-15-2008 20:04:04  
And if it was REALLY cold out, that M that you replaced would be the ONLY one that would start.



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:RIVIR

05-16-2008 10:25:22




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to KRUSS1, 05-16-2008 07:08:24  
ok :~)



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Edpap

05-15-2008 20:01:32




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
Hello,
I would say the 361 is a much better cold weather starter than the 282. Can't say about the fuel consumption. Good Luck Ed



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minnesota red

05-15-2008 19:39:26




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
the D282 will kill the D361 on fuel use by a wide margin.



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Dale Maddux

05-15-2008 19:35:52




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
I have a 706, and is a GREAT tractor. Have heard of 806 tractors running 20000 hours with no overhaul! That is really something!



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ironandsteel

05-15-2008 19:09:35




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 Re: 656, 706 or 806 in reply to Bigsky, 05-15-2008 18:56:57  
I picked up an 806 for my 20 acre farm. I needed some power to pull a haybine and a round baler, and I just wanted a big tractor because my others are smaller. I've not worked it yet, but it does not seem like it will be too big.

I've been told that it is comparatively easy on fuel.

I don't know about the other models personally, so I cannot offer an opinion there. But many have told me that the 806 is a great tractor.

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