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GRINDING NOISE IN LEFT REAR MORE

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RICK IN VT

04-08-2008 16:32:59




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I have a 1951 Cub. When moving it makes a kinda grinding noise in the left rear side. In addition, it grinds like crazy when you try putting it in any gear, once it's in gear you can take it back out and place it in any other gear without it grinding unless you let the clutch back out and lastly, it has a tendancy to pop out of gear in reverse. Where do I start ?




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mkirsch

04-09-2008 05:06:46




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 Re: GRINDING NOISE IN LEFT REAR MORE in reply to RICK IN VT, 04-08-2008 16:32:59  
Rick,

I had the same problem with the gear shifting. What I did was adjust the spring fingers on the pressure plate through the access hole in the bottom of the tractor. Turns out that the clutch wasn't releasing completely because things were worn.

Now, it may be that the pilot bushing is dragging, but adjusting the spring fingers is cheap, relatively easy, and relatively quick to do. If it fixes the gear-grinding problem, you haven't torn the tractor apart and spent hundreds of dollars on parts you really didn't need.

For the grinding noise in the left rear, you're going to have to do some troubleshooting. See if you can localize the sound. Jack the tractor up on that side and spin the wheel. It's probably a bad bearing in the final drive, but it could be a loose wheel lug.

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oldiron29

04-09-2008 03:43:48




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 Re: GRINDING NOISE IN LEFT REAR MORE in reply to RICK IN VT, 04-08-2008 16:32:59  
Rick, The pilot bearing is draging. This is why the clutch will disengage but the shaft still spins with the fly wheel. Some times it just need greese or it may need to be replaced.
BUT! you have to split the tractor to get to it. Oldiron29

Scotty has the gear noise down for ya Need alot of trouble shutting



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ScottyHOMEy

04-08-2008 17:00:58




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 Re: GRINDING NOISE IN LEFT REAR MORE in reply to RICK IN VT, 04-08-2008 16:32:59  
First, what Ron said. It's typical of a lot of old tractors, but I always called it the Farmall crunch. Give your driveshaft time to stop after pushing the clutch pedal, and you'll have a lot less grinding when putting your Cub into gear.

Is the grinding on the left side in all gears? (Part of the problem is that the tranny is on your left, so it's hard to narrow down whether it's in the tranny or the final drive.)

If not, is it worse when pulling against the gear than when coasting against it? Or the other way around? Does it pulse at a given speed? Would it be better described as a groan or a howl? If so, it's more likely wear on the faces of a gear from a lot of work. Not a lot to do about that except replace the gear, which is a BIG job and may not be worth it.

If it is more of real grind and happens in all gears, regardless of under load or not, and the noise is fairly steady for a given speed, it is likely a bearing. I'm not sure how to tell you how to nail down which one it may be but there are four, I believe. One comes out of your transmission/differential. The next, is just outside of that where the differential shaft goes into the final drive. The other two are on each end of the shaft on your bull gear in the lower part of the final drive. All are ball bearings, and it could be any one of them. It's also possiblethat, if it's the bearing that mounts in the tranny case, that you popped a ball out of it that's fallen into the tranny case.

You might want to check out a couple of the Cub specific sites for some guidance, too.

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Idaho Ron

04-08-2008 16:38:24




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 Re: GRINDING NOISE IN LEFT REAR MORE in reply to RICK IN VT, 04-08-2008 16:32:59  
On my 41 A, I have to wait after I push the clutch for a few seconds for the gears to stop. Once they do it won't grind. My guess is yours is the same way give it a few seconds for the gears to stop. And, you can't change grears with them like a car. Ron



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