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Farmall H-narrow front to wide front

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Greg Bates

02-07-2000 19:29:12




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I have an H narrow front & might need to change to a wide front? Will it interchange and where could I find one? Also, approx. how much $$?




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Corky

02-08-2000 10:30:42




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 Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to Greg Bates, 02-07-2000 19:29:12  
Greg it has been my experience that a narrow front will handle much better.My H will spin on a dime.But if you are running a loader wider is better.Sorry for the pun but if handling is a factor reajust your front wheels.Alot cheaper that way.Good luck



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Farmer Bob

02-07-2000 19:53:36




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 Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to Greg Bates, 02-07-2000 19:29:12  
Greg, Your best bet is to place a WTB ad in the classifieds on this site. Besides that, try a tractor salvage yard(s). IH did make a wide front for the H as well as several other mfgs. Schwartz is one with was a very common after market WF on both H's and M's. Expect to pay around $350-500. for a used one in good shape. Check for welds in places they shouldn't be indicating possible prior damage. They are not hard to install as they bolt right up to the upper front bolster that is there now with the NF. You may have to drill a couple of holes in the bottom of your side frame rails for the stabilizer. Of course, be safe in what ever you do while jacking/blocking up the tractor. It's best done with help to keep everything straight while getting the WF bolted into place. Should have four bolts for the steering bolster, four bolts for the upper bolster frame and two bolts for the side frame rails.//FB

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Lance

02-07-2000 19:31:15




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 Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to Greg Bates, 02-07-2000 19:29:12  
Look for a used Schwartz front end.. they make a good aftermarket.. you will probably pay about 300-500 dollars... but they are worth it.. I have a Farmall M with one of those and love it.. goes through terrain alot better...

good luck



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What about steering with wide front?

02-07-2000 19:45:10




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 Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to Lance, 02-07-2000 19:31:15  
Lance: Heard steering becomes a pain with a wide front - harder, more muscle required and bigger turning radius. Also curious how you determine and what you feel about wide versus narrow. Thinking about converting mine over due to terraces in the field and slopes. Thanks, Jim



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Hank

02-10-2000 13:30:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to What about steering with wide front?, 02-07-2000 19:45:10  
If you have an aftermarket 3point hitch and you drive a narrow front end with the implement up you can feel the center of gravity move when you are driving down hill,especially on a side hill. One experience made me find a Schwartz. It is commonly believed around here (South Georgia) that the narrow front is very dangerous.



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Ludwig

02-08-2000 12:32:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to What about steering with wide front?, 02-07-2000 19:45:10  
I've never thought our Super M ever turned all that hard. Got an IH wide front set about as wide as it can go. Gotta have a wide front for potatoes. Coming from potato country I was pretty old before I ever saw a narrow front tractor, and to this day I think they look pretty funny.



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Lance

02-07-2000 21:26:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to What about steering with wide front?, 02-07-2000 19:45:10  
jim, if you want more info email me.. would be happy to help with any info I can provide...



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Lance

02-07-2000 21:23:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to What about steering with wide front?, 02-07-2000 19:45:10  
Jim,
Actually I think that the steering became easier on my "M" and they are nitourious for hard steering. If you think about it...witha narrow front you have all that weight on about 12 Sq inches of ground, compared to a wide front, which you can spread out. I am currently in the process of getting a loader for my M I have purchased one, just have to pick it up, its heavy duty and I am keeping the wide front on for stability on the hills, and because when you push snow for instance the wide front breaks a trail for the rear tires, thus making it more like a tank. and finally.. your turns will be slightly wider, but touch the brake a little bit and you'll turn just as sharp as a narrow front... and in closing..I would shoot for the wide front overall you'll be happy.. and p.s. there are ads in here for Power Streeing kits.. if you are worried about the steering....
Have fun!

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Dick Davis

02-08-2000 05:27:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to Lance, 02-07-2000 21:23:43  
Lance, your comments about wide front ends are right on the mark - except for turning radius. I have an orginal IHC wide front (with the tie rods out front) on one of my M's. You can lock a rear wheel with the brake and that front end still takes a week to come around. No way will it turn even close to a narrow one. Maybe a Swartz turns quicker but I am glad I never had to cultivate corn/beans and make those end row turns with a wide front end. Dick

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HR

02-08-2000 07:25:58




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to Dick Davis, 02-08-2000 05:27:00  
Dick: I drove a Super MD with front mounted four row cultivator many years. It had a wide front Swartz and turning was a bugger but I felt it had better side to side control due to each wheel being able to grab traction without the other wheel right along side to lift it as in a narrow front. I didn't miss power steering because it was NOT a common item in those years. Ya can't miss something that doesn't exist.. NO power steering work was always easier than having the job of stacking bales on a moving hay wagon..now that was work. harvey

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Dick Davis

02-08-2000 16:26:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall H-narrow front to wide front in reply to HR, 02-08-2000 07:25:58  
Harvey good point. I sat here and tried to remember which of my father's tractors was the first with power steering - don't think he ever had a letter series with it. Except for the reconditioned M he bought 12 years after he retired from farming and sold his machinery!! I would prefer to load bales behind the baler like I did when I was a kid. Today I do it all myself so I dump them on the ground, throw them up on the rack, climb up and stack them, jump down/repeat as required! Then I get to unload/stack them in the barn - sure glad I don't have more acres to bale. Dick

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