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Lee @ Elk Mound

01-02-2007 15:52:13




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I have a propane fueled M that I recently picked up which has no sheet metal, no rubber or rims (except one front rim) and the steering wheel is missing. I'm sure it's stuck although it has a complete engine and a special-looking carb but no starter, generator or distributor. Actually, it's a hulk but I'm told the head alone is worth something. I know of another M two miles north of me with no engine which I had thought I might buy to make a whole tractor with in conjunction with this hulk. However, the more I look at the project the less I want to tackle it. Anyone interested in making me an offer for the hulk? I'm located in western Wisconsin.

Lee @ Elk Mound

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RustyFarmall

01-03-2007 08:07:24




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 Re: propane fueled M in reply to Lee @ Elk Mound, 01-02-2007 15:52:13  
My opinion is that you should just let someone else own it. You might check the numbers on the head, but since the M propane tractors were a field conversion, and not factory, I imagine the head on your tractor is the same head as used on the gasoline models. The head that does have value is the head that came on the Farmall 450 propane models. The propane carburetor might be worth something, but not a lot, and if the head is not cracked, it might be worth $150 or so. The stuck engine can be salvaged, but it will be a lot of work and very time consuming.

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Lee @ Elk Mound

01-03-2007 09:18:13




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 Re: propane fueled M in reply to RustyFarmall, 01-03-2007 08:07:24  
Thanks RustyFarmall,

I'm not operating under the impression that this thing is a treasure. I've seen local ads wanting more than $150 for M heads but I have no way of knowing whether or not they've gotten what they wanted. I have an M that has a 5th gear that likes to pop out of gear and maybe that gear is worth something to me. I'll bet it's a bear to get it out and changed though. Any thoughts about that? Thanks again.

Lee @ Elk Mound.

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Janicholson

01-03-2007 12:56:19




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 Re: propane fueled M in reply to Lee @ Elk Mound, 01-03-2007 09:18:13  
Fifth gear is modestly easy to repair, no split. The top off of the trans, the clutch shaft removed, and the fromt carrier with the gears on it come out the front. Keeping all the little rollers is done bu putting a cloth under the shafts where they seperate, and or tieing them with a string wrap as it comes apart. 4/5 slider, and constant mesh need to be replaced. JimN



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Lee at Elk Mounds

01-03-2007 14:32:07




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 Re: propane fueled M in reply to Janicholson, 01-03-2007 12:56:19  
Thanks Janicholson, That's helpful and encouraging information. It doesn't sound like the tractor has to be split to do the gear change. Am I right about that? I know you can tell I'm pretty amateur about that kind of thing but I'm not making excuses--everybody starts somewhere. Thanks again.

Lee @ Elk Mound



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Janicholson

01-03-2007 16:19:25




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 Re: propane fueled M in reply to Lee at Elk Mounds, 01-03-2007 14:32:07  
The book is very important in the process, with diagrams and pics. The top of the trans is very heavy, and shift forks and things are attached which need pictures for resaaembly, and planning while lifting. The tractor does not need to be split. The fifth gear is direct drive like in many old transmissions. It is really not a "gear" it is a Spline coupling between the input and output shafts, using the fourth "real"gear as the slider. Rude shifting between 4 and 5 usually is the reason they become prone to popping out. there is no real fixing unless you are incredible with a welder, metalurgy, and a grinder to shape the spline engagement contact points. (no one I have heard of has even attempted it) JimN

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Lee @ Elk Mound

01-04-2007 12:01:21




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 Re: propane fueled M in reply to Janicholson, 01-03-2007 16:19:25  
Thanks again Janicholson. Sounds for sure like a summer project. Certainly appreciate all the tips. The lifting ought not be too much problem as I have a good engine hoist. Again, thanks.

Lee @ Elk Mound.



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