IH 2000 Loader-Need Advice

We just got an old M, gas, in pretty good shape. It has a 2000 loader on it which has been painted and "looks" nice. We think it is not plumbed correctly due to the placement of the lines and actions of the loader.

Is there a source such as a manual reprint or something that can give us a schematic? Or if I take some pics would someone be willing to check it out?

It was so cold here that we just looked at it quick when we bought it. We also bought a wide front for the M and were going to put it on but now we are wondering if we can even do that with this loader on?
Thanks for any input!

Weldon K

The 2000 loader is a pretty big loader for an M. It's not even meant to go on an M. I've got a manual and it doesn't even go into installing one on an M due to the lack of high-capacity, two-way hydraulics that the loader really needs to work properly.

Speed is a function of GPMs, gallons per minute, and even if this M has a live pump, it's not going to set any land speed records moving the loader. It's going to be slow.

Sounds like the arms are plumbed for pressure-up and gravity down using the tractor's standard 1-way hydraulics. Do you pull the lift rod that goes to the belly of the tractor to raise and lower the loader?

The belly pump doesn't hold enough fluid to lift the loader all the way by itself. The hose and TEE that run under the belly are probably plumbed into the belly pump's drain port, and the "dead" side of the cylinders are supposed to be filled with oil to supplement the belly pump reservoir.

To get "power down" for the arms you will need to add a two-way valve into the system.

To make it go faster, you will need to get a different tractor.

You can add the wide front, no problem.

re: operating the loader: There are 3 levers mounted on the right side of the steering wheel. Two are for the loader and one for the rear blade. One of the two operates the arms and the other operates the bucket. Okay, now going to explain how its hooked up. I do have a picture but need a close up of the right side for full viewing pleasure. lol

The hoses to these levers come from what we are assuming USED to be the much lower fill pipe. It has obviously been made taller and then it tees off to the three hoses, continues up where it has a fill cap, vented nonetheless. Actually, from this point it is too hard to explain so I will stop here.

The belly lever on the right side by your shin (I assume this is what you are talking about) turns a cylinder, on the right side, that appears as tho you can bolt on a pulley. This only operates when the clutch is released and the lever pushed in.

There are also two threaded ports on each side of the belly that are capped for a total of 4 capped ports. Have no clue what those are.

I am working on putting up a page with many pictures as one sure wont do the trick. We do have an 856D that we considered putting this loader on but it doesn't seem like it is wide enough for the 856. There are spacers on the M and then very deep mounts. I don't know if the loader had been cut out because it was originally on a larger tractor.

Thanks so much for your wonderful information and I will post when I get that page up.

1. It is very slow going up and even though we topped off the hydralic fluid, it does not go up all the way. 2. It goes down by gravity only.
3. It has no down pressure when you get to the ground level.
4. The small return line that runs along side of the left piston has no hose attached to it and the one on the right is attached by a T to a line running UNDER the tractor. 5. There are extensive use of pipe fittings rather than hydraulic fittings.

Wish I lived near IC. We are up in Butler County. Maybe I will try to use a digital camera and get some pics of what I mean and put them somewhere online that I can let everyone see. We need to do work anyhow on the lines because they are leaking in places so we want to do it right. We got the tractor and loader from an elderly man that buys them and fixes them up. He has customized quite a few things on the tractor and the loader as it is (ie: loader frame has had a cutting torch applied on the inside of the horizonatal frame towards the front). He did a nice job on the 3 pt blade.

Thanks for the input and I will try to get a few pics. We have asked around and there may be a grumpy old guy that can come take a look (term used was nephews term LOL).

They've got a double acting cart hooked to a single acting horse.

Bet it is slow and probably doesn't have any capacity to speak of because it is continually fighting itself to even lift at all. :>)

Allan

Yes very slow, have no idea the power as we just got it and haven't used it for anything but hopefully we can fix it before we do need the power.

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I am working on the pics now but had to wait until the sun was overhead as the M was parked in the shadows of the corn crib.