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Grass Grower

11-17-2006 07:08:10

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Any Ideas on why a 6 volt charging system will discharge a good fully charged battery in about 2 minutes. Generator rebuilt and test at 17V when running unhooked from system. Regulator test ok but replaced just to make sure and has been polarized.

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Janicholson

11-17-2006 11:36:47

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

If your voltage regulator is not the correct one for that tractor, it may close the cutout relay and have it stay closed. If the generator was teste while out of the tractor, it could produce 17 volts with no fault. I think the battery may be bad, and the regulator wrong for the tractor, and the wiring may not be correct either. JimN

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Brownie 45

11-17-2006 11:29:27

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

If the battery is loosing this much current in 2 minutes, the discharge has to be going to ground between the battery terminal & the starter switch, because if there was a short between the starter switch & regulator that # 10 or # 12 wire would have been melted by now. The short must be in the starter switch or in the contact button on the starter. Remove the starter switch & see what it looks like.

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Brownie 45

11-17-2006 10:58:46

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

Try removing the heavy "hot " battery lead from the starter switch & see if that eliminates the heavy current draw.

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gene bender

11-17-2006 10:19:05

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

If it shows that much voltage when charging something is realy bad and if the battery will go dead in that quick order wires would be smoking 17v will smoke the gen and other stuff better recheck your wiring.

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Nat 2

11-17-2006 09:30:23

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

Two minutes? Are you covered in molten lead and battery acid, by chance?

If you've got that much of a dead short, something has to be smoking somewhere on that tractor.

If it's going dead in two minutes cranking the tractor over, figure out why the tractor won't start first.

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John T

11-17-2006 09:04:22

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

Grass, sure it discharges a battery in a couple minutes????? ? WOW Youre gonna let the smoke out of something n its shot after that lol

Did you polarize the genny after you rewired or added the new VR ????? ?????

If the battery is good (I sure questiion that !!!) one way for a very high discharge upon shutdown to happen to drain the battery real quick is a sticking closed cutout relay regardless if its inside a 3 or 4 terminal VR or a stand alone 2 wire unit. You might wanna see if the discharge continues if you temporarily unhook the wire on the BAT terminal on the VR when shes shut off????? ? Or you could remove the genny belt n see if it runs like a motor when shes shut off, either of which indicates the cutout relay is sticking closed.

If the cutout relay isnt the problem but the battery still discharges that fast, theres either a serious short somewhere or the batetry is shot, make sure theres electrolyte above the plates and that no cells exhibit a grey or milky color????? ??? Have it laod tested at a shop !!!!! !!

John T

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grass grower

11-17-2006 07:59:19

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

Seems charging system ok as tractor will run with battery disconnected. another question - looking at current with volt meter and battery disconnected will lead coming off starter read reverse polarity?

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Roger Mills

11-17-2006 07:17:50

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

It takes a lot to discharge a fully charged battery in two minutes. A 100 amp/hr. battery can take 100 amp load for one hour, (less due to heat etc.) but thats where the rating comes from. With everything turned off disconnect things until something sparks when you do.

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K-Mo

11-17-2006 07:17:30

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to Grass Grower, 11-17-2006 07:08:10

If it is true that you are actually discharging the battery in two minutes, then I would suspect the battery. If you discharge a good fully charged battery in two mintues, smoke would be coming from the problem area.

K-Mo

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Bob

11-17-2006 08:09:44

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Re: Super C Charging System in reply to K-Mo, 11-17-2006 07:17:30

EXACTLY.

Discharging a GOOD, fully-charged battery in 2 minutes is gonna make a LOT of heat and smoke, SOMEWHERE!

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