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Wardner

09-27-2006 12:53:03




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With some trepedation, I delivered an SMTA radiator to a repair shop. The steel side piece had worked loose and had chafed the joint between the core and the lower tank. It was leaking about one drop every 30 seconds. He estimated the cost to clean and repair at around $60-80.

I called at 3 PM to see if it was ready. He says no and it won't be completed till tomorrow. He found seven holes and it was going to be alot more work than anticipated. He even said he had to remove the steel side piece and reattach.

I know it only takes about 30 seconds to remove that piece and probably 2 minutes to re-install. I am thinking that six of the holes are bogus. At any rate, why is he telling me all this stuff? A competant radiator man can go from one hole to the next and not even bother to count. They are not a big deal and are not labor or material intensive. I am dreading the confrontation tomorrow.

As a side note, I probably should have known better than to leave the work with him but he was recommended by my local garage. When I entered his radiator shop, he was sandblasting a 50 gal truck step tank in his tank room and wasn't even wearing glasses, hearing protection or, a respirator.

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jpl

09-28-2006 04:41:31




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to Wardner, 09-27-2006 12:53:03  
it would have saved me alot of time if they would have stayed tinned instead of rusting. most tractor repairs were from running into corn stalks etc, or putting water out of creeks and plugging them up. hardest thing for a rad is running it hot, or with loose brackets, they expand out and cause all kinds of leaks. lots of dif betwwen packard and m rad, must be a rookie or just learning, lets hope he has a good teacher. good luck with your rad, repair ratio if i can remember correctly was about 30 car rad to one or maybe two tractor rads it always varies.i was in farm country here in ohio.

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Chris B.

09-27-2006 19:12:20




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to Wardner, 09-27-2006 12:53:03  
I had 2 M radiators, 1 with a good core and rotted out side brackets, the other with a bad core and good brackets. Took me about 3 or 4 hours of work and plenty of wasted solder to get a decent radiator. After about 5 months of intermittent use it doesn't leak and the brackets are still solid.

I think I paid $50 for the good core. Well worth my time and I learned a bit about soldering.

Chris B.

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jpl

09-27-2006 15:02:37




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to Wardner, 09-27-2006 12:53:03  
well i guess i;ll get my two cents in, having repaired radiators for 20 years, once you clean a radiator, i dont care how good it looks, you get the crud out and possibly stop leak from who knows how long its been in there, a old radiator if its not running hot should not be hot tanked or cleaned, just repair the holes. how old is a sm radiator 50 years old? the side plates need to be clean and tinned to replace properly and is not a 2 min job. just my opinion if it matters. one thing i found out is that the old farmall rad are pretty tough. not like the junk they put in cars. you all have a nice day.

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Wardner

09-27-2006 17:47:28




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to jpl, 09-27-2006 15:02:37  
Perhaps I am mistaken. I have always thought that once steel has been tinned, it stays tinned. If that statement is true, the brackets should go back on quickly and with a minimum of solder or tinning solution.



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sde

09-27-2006 14:30:24




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to Wardner, 09-27-2006 12:53:03  
Tell him that you only authorized the $60 to $80 repair.



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Wardner

09-27-2006 18:01:21




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to sde, 09-27-2006 14:30:24  
Yeah, I'll go to the shop, lay 4 twenties on the table, and walk out with the radiator. Let's hope I don't have to smash the radiator over his head.

I suppose it must be tough being in the business. All the new radiator product is essentially throw-away. There's is not much chance to grow a repair business. I had to laugh, though, when he asked if my radiator came from a Packard. I wonder if the steering shaft is located near the hood ornament.

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Nebraska Cowman

09-27-2006 13:48:54




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to Wardner, 09-27-2006 12:53:03  
Oops. You'll know better next time. I'd guess a good radiator man would have known up front that as soon as he got heat near it he was gonna end up with both top and bottom tanks off and starting over from scratch. And $300 or so later you would have a radiator that wouldn't leak and will probably last longer than the Chineese replacement. Good luck. Let us know how it turns out. I've found that unless you do it yourself there are no cheap radiator fixes.

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Wardner

09-27-2006 18:04:48




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 Re: Radiator Repair Opinions in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 09-27-2006 13:48:54  
Kinda curious as to how many old tractor radiators need service over and above puncture damage.



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