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PUTTER

09-21-2006 05:33:16




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Hey fellas, Just bought an H thats been sitting in a barn for at least 10 years. She spits and sputters then will run pretty good at times. Going to tear into the carb this weekend. Does anyone have an exploded view of the carb i could print out. Can't seem to find Dad's manual for the H. Also this tractor has the X 1 at the end of the serial number but is equiped with the radiator shutters, does that sound right. Thanks in advance PUTTER

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old

09-21-2006 08:13:45




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to PUTTER, 09-21-2006 05:33:16  
If it sat that long you should fill the cylinders with tranny fluid. Then open up the carb. The tranny fluid will loosen up any sticking rings and also lube up/clean out rust that maybe on the cylinder walls. Then rebuild the carb, pull the plugs and turn the engine over to clear the tranny fluid and then reinstall the carb.

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PUTTER

09-21-2006 20:16:09




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to old, 09-21-2006 08:13:45  
Hey OLD, I put regular motor oil in the cylinder before we tried to get it running, I suppose tranny fluid is thinner, I think I'll try some while I'm fiddling with this carb. I wouldn't doubt it's got a stuck ring or two. Thanks PUTTER



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old

09-21-2006 20:41:35




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to PUTTER, 09-21-2006 20:16:09  
Theres something about tranny fluid that loosens things up better the oil does and it also seems to clean up rust better. I use it on locked up engines and most of the time they pop loose after a few days



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Andy Martin

09-21-2006 07:05:45




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to PUTTER, 09-21-2006 05:33:16  
I don't know if they sold shutters for cold climate use or not. Maybe someone will enlighten us.

Otherwise the radiator or clutch housing may have been swapped. It could be a distillate tractor with a gasoline rear end because they broke the original transaxle, like with a loader.

By the way, I would put an inline filter in the fuel line and keep running it. Sloshing gasoline is the best way to clean the tank and you get to drive the tractor while doing it. I've cleaned up several this way. I have 43 Farmalls and have never actually taken a tank off to clean it.

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PUTTER

09-21-2006 19:46:19




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to Andy Martin, 09-21-2006 07:05:45  
Hey Andy, I was thinking it might be a cold climate option, I live in the UP of michigan. Where do you get your in line filters, Napa, I think I heard somewhere you had to have special one for gravity flow. 43 Farmalls!!!!! ! you must be a wizard on keeping them running. This is my 3rd H, Still have my Grand Dad's and also a very nice basket case 53 Super that my Dad got from the original owner that had only worked it 2 years before he quit farming. Dad took the front end off and put it on his dads and the lift all pump too. The rest is still sitting in a fence row waiting on me I guess. Later PUTTER

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Andy Martin

09-22-2006 05:53:46




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to PUTTER, 09-21-2006 19:46:19  
I buy any old cheap inline filter, usually from Wal-Mart. Sometimes I just get one of a junk car. Sometimes they plug up and sometimes they never do, even though the sediment bowl does.

It's probably the high dollar filters that won't work, because they filter better and have more pressure drop.

Or maybe the guys that don't think an inline filter will work are real sure but have not actually tried it. There is some of that advice on this board.

But each person's experience is what it is, so sometimes advice seems to contradict, but situations are different and sometimes the reasons for a solution are inaccurate. I once knew a guy who was having trouble with his car vaper locking. He thought it was the battery, and said he had to diconnect the battery and let the acid "settle". After five minutes he would reconnect it and the car would start and run! He tried to tell me my vapor locked car was in the battery even though the battery would spin it. After great discussion I could not convince him. I have had good luck with the inline filters but I hate to cut a good factory fuel line so I take them off and hang them up for "later" and put on a home made one.

I'm no "wizard", Farmalls are just easy and fun.

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PUTTER

09-22-2006 06:53:50




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to Andy Martin, 09-22-2006 05:53:46  
Hey Andy, Yah you got to read between the lines on some advice here. Depends on how deep your pockets are sometimes. I'll get one this weekend at wally world. I think that might be the main problem. I don't want to cut my line either so i'll make a new one with some copper i got laaying around. Thanks for the info PUTTER



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Mike CA

09-21-2006 08:13:26




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to Andy Martin, 09-21-2006 07:05:45  
You have 43 Farmalls?

Forty Three? Right now, in your barn?

That is unbelieveable! No wonder they are getting rare! You are hogging them all up!!



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PUTTER

09-21-2006 20:08:44




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to Mike CA, 09-21-2006 08:13:26  
Hey Mike, I've been following your H saga, if you lived here in the upper pennisula of Michigan you would be tripping over H's and M's. Seems like every farmer around these parts had one or the other or both. I grew up driving an H when I was big enough to kick in the clutch. There's still a lot of them around here if you know where to look. I guess I'm like Andy, running an old folks home for Farmalls. Later PUTTER

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Andy Martin

09-21-2006 12:08:53




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to Mike CA, 09-21-2006 08:13:26  
Who said they were in a barn? There are six under cover right now. We're still baling hay and they stay outside. Some of them don't run :-) (But they all did when they were new)

I'll bet there are 43 scrapped every week in this country. That does cause a shortage. I'll die, and these will be for sale.

You passed up a "parts" H which I argued should be bought and kept together.

I prefer to think of myself as running a home for aged Farmalls.

Those that want to work get to work, and we don't keep any young snots around to make fun of them. The only three point is on an H that came that way. I have bought several which were headed to the scrap yard.

When someone drives in and asks whether I have a tractor for sale I slap my forehead and say "OH NO! Does it look like I've bought too many?"

And, no sell is a four letter word and we don't use those words around my house.

I do have 3 JD poppers (none restored, a 1937 A, 1950 B, and 1949 H) one Allis and one Massey so people won't think I don't know any better.

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Mike CA

09-21-2006 13:22:22




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to Andy Martin, 09-21-2006 12:08:53  
My, so defensive! hehehe

About that Parts H. I haven't made a final decision on it. There is a guy named Brandon out here in California. I forget his handle here on YT, but he has a good number of parts that I need for my H. I'm trying to get in contact with him to figure a price for his stuff. If I can do that, then I can leave that H where it sits... and maybe pull it out someday when I'm ready? Who knows.

Anyway, Brandon, if you read this... check your e-mail brother! :-)

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Keith-OR

09-21-2006 10:18:48




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to Mike CA, 09-21-2006 08:13:26  
Hey Mike that is a funny one!!!

ROTFLMAO....

Keith & Shawn



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GordoSD

09-21-2006 06:55:52




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to PUTTER, 09-21-2006 05:33:16  
Any good IH dealer can print out the carb schematic for you. You also get a good one with the 85$ kit they sell. Start in the fuel tank and go all the way to the carb, cleaning everything.

Gordo



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PUTTER

09-21-2006 19:56:28




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to GordoSD, 09-21-2006 06:55:52  
Hey Gordo, I was going to try and get by without the 85 $ kit. Maybe pull the bowl off and give it a good cleaning. Closest dealers about 3 hrs away. If the easy way won't work I guess i'll have to take a ride to Green Bay, lots of old iron to look at along the way. Later PUTTER



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El Toro

09-21-2006 06:32:47




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 Re: 1951 H in reply to PUTTER, 09-21-2006 05:33:16  
The X1 indicates it's a gasoline engine. Hal



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