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Value of Farmall 300 need advice

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fewlio

09-08-2006 18:24:56




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My dad and I are getting involved in smaller acreage (10-40 acres) of pumpkins, corn, melons, and I will be wanting to grow some sunflowers and canola as well, for biodiesel. We own a 9N and an NAA, the NAA was recently purchased by my dad but I think was a poor choice, it only offers more power than the 9N, it doesn't offer remote hydraulics or live PTO. I've discovered that for certain, I need remote hydraulics to operate my seed drill and John Deere 5 sicklebar mower. I'm a little locked into 3 point implements, as I have recently purchased a 2 bottom plow, tandem disc, 2 cultivators (one w/ dirt shield for young seedlings) and a 2 row corn planter, all in 3 point. So I'm looking for something to suit my needs!

Saw this ad:

"FARMALL 300 NF fast hitch or 3 point, near new tires, good sheet metal, good paint, TA live PTO and hydraulic, asking $2,250/offer."

I'm in North Dakota, and this guy's about 290 miles away in Minnesota. Being in the heart of farm country I thought it'd be easier to find tractors, but honestly most of the tractors these days are huge beasts for grain farming, and I actually think the smaller ones are more common in more affluent states where people do farming merely as a hobby. Reading the papers I haven't found a lot of tractors that fit my requirements, but this one seems like a fair fit. The only thing I'm not crazy about is the narrow front...I prefer a WF like my 9N, but I suppose as long as you exercise good driving judgement you won't tip over. Is it easy and safe to convert a NF to WF? If so, is it hard to find parts to do so?

Talked to the gent today on the phone, he's a retired farmer and hasn't used the machine much for a few years. New rear tires. Says it runs good, or at least no problems that he's aware of. Fasthitch w/ a 3 point conversion as well. TA working as far as he's aware.

So what do you all think of the price? Things to look for? Sounds like one should definitely check for play in the steering from what I've read on these forums.

I don't know if it helps any, but in my area, 9Ns go for around 1900-2500, with restored ones going in the 3000 and above. Ford 2000s go for 3-7 thousand. NAAs for 2500-3500. Seems like M's and H's go for 1500-2500 without loaders.

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GordoSD

09-09-2006 15:54:52




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
Sounds like a Ford 851 would be your next tractor.

GW



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26Red

09-09-2006 11:55:33




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
I have a Farmall 300 with a wide front and a saginaw 3 point hitch we use on our pumpkin farm(couple acres). Works great and is much more powerful than our old H, but I prefer the narrow front. I rebuilt this 300 front to back, all the way down to the transmission castings..(what job!) Anyway, problem areas to look for on these tractors are the rear hydraulic lines- they tend to rust out, and the TA is most likely worn out. ($500) to replace). The TA makes the tractor more useful in my opinion. It's great for slow transplanting of melons or pumpkin plants. For $2250 is pretty reasonable, you can always remove the fast hitch and sell it if you prefer the aftermarket 3 pt hitch..I would offer $1800 and see if the seller bites.

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Mike Van

09-09-2006 03:59:37




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
NF's are great for backing wagons into tight spaces, they'll turn on their own axis. Not so good for mowing hay, as you're running those front tires on the swath you just cut.



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Dick Bartoto

09-09-2006 02:16:09




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
The 300 Farmall would without a doubt do everything better then a Ford, except go under low branches.Price is a little high. Start lower, and see if you can work out a compromise



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Nat 2

09-09-2006 00:14:38




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
You may find the 3pt conversion a little clunky to use, or you may not. Fast Hitch and 3pt are close, but not quite the same as far as lift points, lift angles, and such, so compromises must be made with the conversion. The conversion itself is usually a pair of tongs that fit into the fast hitch sockets, and have holes that slip over the 3pt pins. Sometimes the whole thing is a frame that connects to all three points, but some conversions have a separate top link.

There is no "true" full 3pt conversion kit for a 300 that includes draft control, and is suitable for plowing. The full 3pt conversions on the market are meant for things like mowers, bale spears, etc, where the stress isn't all that great, and accurate depth control is not required. If you need draft control, your best bet is the fast hitch. It should work pretty well with a 3pt plow once you get things adjusted.

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fewlio

09-09-2006 01:07:07




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to Nat 2, 09-09-2006 00:14:38  
Thanks for the info on the 3 pt conversion. As far as the plow and cultivator, I can run those on my 9N. I don't think I will ever want to sell my 9N, because it is so small and agile, is lighter on fuel use for tasks that don't require more HP, and because of the 3 point hitch with hydraulic depth control. The engine also seems to run perfectly, and always starts right up. I also love the convenience of having two tractors, so that you can leave a cultivator or disc on one of them the whole year for those common tasks, and use the other tractor for mowing, planting, etc. I hate changing implements all the time, I've found even with a 3 point it's still a pain!

I'm telling my dad we need to ditch his somewhat redundant NAA and replace it with something that has remote hydraulics! My dad has said that my 9N can't pull my Dearborn 2 bottom plow. We'll find out next year! Wasn't it born to pull that plow?

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MichaelNEIowa

09-08-2006 22:49:29




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
I think that sounds like a good price, especially if everything works and it has good tires. A set of 4 new tires with tubes can easily set you back 800-1000. The fast hitch will be nice to have.



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Jimer

09-08-2006 19:45:27




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
Not sure how to compare to mine but will share with you for your reference. Bought a 300 utility (no TA) at a farm auction in the Crookston, MN area 1 year ago, power steering and loader, 5' 2 pt cycle mower and 2 pt 6' blade, included a conversion to 3 pt, paid $3,500. I really don't want to know, but would guess I have another $1000 in it. Nothing major, i.e. engine, trans, etc. Do not think I got any deal.
Re the narrow front, I have not seen it mentioned but Dad had one on a M when he farmed and all I remember about it was how the front wheels would cramp, especially when turning in soft ground and the steering wheel would just fly arount. Conversely, I really do not know how much a wide front ads to the stability due to how they pivot.
My two cents for free!

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texp

09-08-2006 19:02:29




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 Re: Value of Farmall 300 need advice in reply to fewlio, 09-08-2006 18:24:56  
Well, the 300 is a fine tractor - kind of the younger brother of the "H", but it has live hydraulics, live pto, a little more power, and an optional torque amplifier. As for the narrow front, unless you are going over BIG, STEEP HILLS, and are a little short on common sense, there is really no safey problem. It is possible to add a wide front, I don't know much about it, but I did convert a narrow front "H" to a wide front with little problem. Wide fronts are hard to find and kind of pricey. As for the price of the tractor, it's maybe a little high for central MN, I'd offer 1900, and let him talk me up to around 2100. tex

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