Chat's tractor's- not sure about 'em

Both were built by combining parts from other tractors. I would guess the SHTA was built from a Super H front and a 300 rear end. The SBTA is probably a B front end mated to a 340 transmission, then all the "B" platform and final drive parts were bolted on.

What I object to is people who think that the very existence of these tractors implies intent to defraud. I don't see Chat's trying to pass these off as "IH factory," only original in the sense that they're original creations of Chat's Tractors. In reference to the SBTA, "only one in existence" is true. It IS the only one in existence. Nobody else has made one, that anybody knows of. Doesn't mean they're trying to pass it off as an IH factory product...

This is no different than customizing a classic car to make a one-off machine that's unique and tuned to the owner/builder's tastes and style...

Please...Look at the way the ads are listed. Any body who didnt know IH tractors would think the yare the real thing.Just like you said about customizing a car, some who knows that will know whats been done and what hast, what original is and isnt, same with a tractor.He should have at the very least said he built them or someone else built them,he didnt which is withholding the truth which in my book is lying, or as you said intent to defraud!

I have yet to see any true intent to defraud in any reported case of a Super HTA. People say that just because someone paid $10,000 at an auction for one, that he was somehow fooled into thinking that it was a factory machine. What if he just liked the tractor, knew full well that it was a one-off custom, and paid what he thought was a fair price? That's the far far far more likely scenario. It happens all the time at auto auctions. Anyone with Speed Channel can see it on the Barrett-Jackson auto auctions on a weekly basis.

That's all I have to say on this subject.

The only quibble anyone could possibly have with that is that it does NOT say, "This is NOT IH factory" or something to that effect. Nothing in that ad is misleading or untruthful.

Neither did IH build any tractors in 1955 with a C-164 engine. Nor did they ever build an H of any description with IPTO or Fast Hitch.