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6v to 12v on H question

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JSchill

07-09-2006 15:04:57




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Other than the obvious of changing the battery and the generator/alternator change, what else needs to be changed for a complete conversion?




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John T

07-09-2006 16:32:35




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 Re: 6v to 12v on H question in reply to JSchill, 07-09-2006 15:04:57  
If its a battery powered coil ignition instead of a Magneto, you gotta EITHER add a series voltage dropping (12 to 6) external Ballast Resistor in the ignitions primary circuit AFTER the Ignition switches IGN output and BEFORE the coil OR ELSE get a true full 12 volt rated coil (what some call internally ballasted).

The added External Ballast should be somewhere near the same ohms as the 6 volt coils primary winding as measured between its lil + and - terminals, and typical values are in the 1.5 to 1.85 ohms range and they are around 25 to 30 watts or so power rated, sometimes referred to as ceramic wirewound bathtub style.

If you wanna get fancy and go with a 6 volt coil and an external series ballast, you could add a ballast by pass circuit during start up for a hotter starting spark, it puts battery voltage on the coil ONLY while cranking but then drops back to the ballasted voltage around 6 when running. It can help starting in extreme cold temps and/or a weak engine or batteyr or starter.

In the event you change battery polarity as most all alternators require negative ground, you would have to swap the ammeter leads so it dont read bass ackwards and swap coil leads also so its polarity matches.

Of course, get 12 volt lights.

John T

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JSchill

07-09-2006 18:23:17




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 Re: 6v to 12v on H question in reply to John T, 07-09-2006 16:32:35  
Thanks for the replies. My reason for asking was mainly for the starter. It turns but doesn't engage with the flywheel, so I took it out to find the flywheel teeth ground down only in the 5 or 6 teeth where the starter engages. I can't move the tractor as it has a loader on it and it's down.



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farmallhal

07-09-2006 18:39:02




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 Re: 6v to 12v on H question in reply to JSchill, 07-09-2006 18:23:17  
I saw on the forum a post of a year or so ago where a person in their same situation with a down loader had to move the tractor. The process, as I recall was to put the tractor in reverse and pull it backward with the belly pump engaged and in the lift position. Pulling the tractor would operate the belly pump by providing pressure to raise the bucket enough off the ground so it could then be pulled forward. I would think this would be better with the spark plugs removed. The belly pump would be working off the transmission to provide hydraulic pressure. Hope this is of help to you as well. Hal

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F-Dean

07-09-2006 15:49:30




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 Re: 6v to 12v on H question in reply to JSchill, 07-09-2006 15:04:57  
You may have to change to a negative ground and reverse the wires on the coil.



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Dave BN

07-09-2006 15:16:23




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 Re: 6v to 12v on H question in reply to JSchill, 07-09-2006 15:04:57  
If you keep the 6 volt coil you'll need a resistor to drop the voltage to 6 volts at the hot side of the coil. Starter and lights should be OK. Dave



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