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railhead

02-28-2006 18:51:25




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Is Case IH the only people that sell this type oil? I want to put it in my tractor but kinda would rather not pay 65 bucks for 5 gal of it. If they sell it, someone else makes it because I never heard CIH owned refinerys. Where on earth can I buy this reasonably?




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Turk

03-02-2006 06:27:54




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 Re: low ash oil agian in reply to railhead, 02-28-2006 18:51:25  
Hey rail, in my opinion, you need low ash whatever it costs. We had lp tractors only for a long time, and the sixes are really touchy about it. The bigger they are and the harder they pull the worse they are about it. Our 806 would wipe out a valve job in two seasons with the wrong oil. The 460 and 560 were the same way, but they turned into little tractors soon and were not as much trouble. Never had valve trouble with the fours.

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sammy the RED

02-28-2006 20:12:42




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 Re: low ash oil agian in reply to railhead, 02-28-2006 18:51:25  
Pennzoil is a low ash oil.



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railhead

03-01-2006 03:52:04




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 Re: low ash oil agian in reply to sammy the RED, 02-28-2006 20:12:42  
Their website agrees with you. Good advice.



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K.B.-826

02-28-2006 19:23:09




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 Re: low ash oil agian in reply to railhead, 02-28-2006 18:51:25  
Yes, similar products are avalible. Check with your local ag oil supplier. I have used a Cenex product called Hi-Tac or Low-Tac or somthing in the 706 gas in a pinch. You didn't mention what engine you've got. If it's in the H and M family, or a smaller early 4-cylinder gas like a C-113 or a C-123, you really don't need Low-Ash. If your tractor has a C-200 or a six-cylinder, you definetly need Low-Ash or similar. Due to the way those engines are designed, more oil gets pulled past the valve stems and into the cylinder than in most other engines. If "regular" oil is used, it will leave carbon deposits on the valve seats, which causes poor heat transfer, and valve failure within a few hundred hours at full load. Now, punch out the numbers. 20 quarts in a 5-gallon pail. $65 divided by 20 is $3.25. IH six-cylinder gas holds 9 quarts. That's $29.25 plus filter every 100 hours. Bet you still spend more on oil changes for your car or pickup.

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railhead

03-01-2006 03:39:48




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 Re: low ash oil agian in reply to K.B.-826, 02-28-2006 19:23:09  
Oh yea, it is a 806 LP. Thanks.



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Steven@AZ

02-28-2006 19:12:27




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 Re: low ash oil agian in reply to railhead, 02-28-2006 18:51:25  
I use regular motor oil in my gas tractors without a problem. My H gets Mobil Delvac 5w-40 since it has been completely rebuilt (holds 70 psi of oil pressure all day). I have also run 10w-30 or 15w-40 in tractors without any trouble. Just grab a case of quarts at Wally World for around $1 to $2 per quart.

And, Dad has always used straight 30 diesel oil in the gas tractors on the farm. No problems. Switches to 10w for the winter.

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