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banjo

02-04-2006 16:24:41




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Looking at my differential and trying to figure out the capacity, i noticed a plug right behind the tag on the seat bracket. What would this plug be for? straight slot head and 1/8 pipe thread.

I looked at my I&T shop manual and it does not show it in any diagram.

Another question.. does the lube travel threw the diff tube to the axle housing. The manual shows a seal at the outer end of the differential axle on the inside of the bearing.Just wondered when i put lube in it leaked out the planter seal. I knew it was leaking already, just wondered if the lube was supposed to travel there threw the transmission fill.

I don't see and seals on the internet available for this area of the tractor.

Also the pto sounds dry inside, it is a sling type lube? or maybe just low on oil. i had about 3 gallons in it but it was still dry sounding.Only way it looks like it can get lube is filled to the plug on the side of diff housing. I have drained it already as it was pouring out in several areas making a mess of the floor.

really need to find seals and probably bearings. thanks

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Gene-AL

02-05-2006 12:27:30




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 Re: differential super A in reply to banjo, 02-04-2006 16:24:41  
Banjo,
Capacities from IH Super-A owner's manual:

Transmission case (SAE-90):
Without power take-off and belt pully 4-1/2 Qts.
With power take-off only 5 Qts.
With power take-off & belt pully or belt pully only 5-1/2 Qts.

Rear axle housing (SAE-90) 2-3/4 Pts each side.

Steering gear housing (SAE-90):1-QT.

Touch control reservoir (IH Touch Control Fluid) 6-3/4 Pts.

Engine crankcase 5 Qts.

Air cleaner oil cup (same as engine oil) 3/4 Pt.

Hope this is helpful.

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gene bender

02-05-2006 01:11:18




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 Re: differential super A in reply to banjo, 02-04-2006 16:24:41  
Just do one side at a time. I remove the rim and center section. The final drive and diff shaft and housing will balance hooked to a cherry picker real nice. Drivers side is the fun one with all the stuff you have to remove to get to the trans seal. You mite want to split the tractor at the front of the tranny and do that seal also. Then you can dismantle the whole rear end to get the seals. Check the bearing on the input shaft if you split the tractor. I have found it sure can quiet the tranny with a new bearing.

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banjo

02-05-2006 10:57:35




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 Re: differential super A in reply to gene bender, 02-05-2006 01:11:18  
Yea, Gene i see it is leaking at the front too. Will probably split it at one point, as when you mash clutch it does not disengauge too good. grinds in gear and frog hops in reverse under pressure.

Are these seals relativly easy to get. Mind you i'm 2 weeks from everywhere it seems. Part house is really bare around here.



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banjo

02-04-2006 18:17:35




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 Re: differential super A in reply to banjo, 02-04-2006 16:24:41  
Where do you support the tractor with the differentials off? I see jack areas underneath but they will be removed to replace seals.



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banjo

02-04-2006 18:14:15




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 Re: differential super A in reply to banjo, 02-04-2006 16:24:41  
Looks like i'm going to need all the seals.

as i stated i poured the oil in the trans fill hole by the shifter and it was running(leaking) out the planter seal and both sides of trans to differential. I bet the bearings are going to be bad when i get to them also.

lube was pretty contaminated. don't know what the final drives are going to need at this time. slow going right now. Parts are adding up.

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gene bender

02-04-2006 17:18:03




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 Re: differential super A in reply to banjo, 02-04-2006 16:24:41  
The slotted head is to load the spring for the pto indent. The fill is located to the left and forwards of the shifter. Level plug is behind left brake rod just rear of the clevis. Final drive is filled at the plug on the front inside of final drive. There is a seal on the trans to keep oil in the trans. There is another seal on final drive to keep oil in the final drive no drains on final drive just take the bottom covers off to drain and clean.Do you want part#s of seals?

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Janicholson

02-05-2006 08:54:31




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 Re: differential super A in reply to gene bender, 02-04-2006 17:18:03  
I'm Asking if the system was over filled!!
Putting 3 galons in (depending on what is in it already might cause the leaks as described. Use the level plugs first. as noted above.
Just my spot of lube,
JimN



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banjo

02-05-2006 10:52:40




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 Re: differential super A in reply to Janicholson, 02-05-2006 08:54:31  
Overfilled , yes. it will still leak if it is at the correct level. seals shot.

I was trying to see why the pto sounded dry. I was not useing the tractor . I bought this tractor about a month ago with numerous problems.

Propane cylinder hanging off the side, fuel strainer broke, steering collumn spliced with odd steering wheel with pipe welded over the splice, pivot pin bent, front bearing over tightend,front u bolt cut and welded back together, valve stem in the coolant drain, no lube in the steering houseing, worm gear missing teeth on steering, mag bypassed.....

I see the level plug by the left brake rod now. I still have not found the fill plug on the final drive. May be burried under crud.

I have a long way to go with this. I appreciate the help. And in return i will have a first hand knowledge on the rebuilding of this ole tractor to pass on to someone else.

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Janicholson

02-05-2006 16:32:39




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 Re: differential super A in reply to banjo, 02-05-2006 10:52:40  
I would lower the level to the check plug and see if fluid runs out. almost all of them will leak if the trans/diff is filled to top.
Give it a try, it will not hurt anything!
JimN



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