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International 340 backfired and died

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ankhe105

10-29-2005 08:03:06




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Just going to the woods and she backfired and died. All it does when I turn the key is backfire. Rebuilt about 10 years ago and is gas. Anybody? Pleeeese???




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ankhe105

10-29-2005 10:33:43




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 Re: International 340 backfired and died in reply to ankhe105, 10-29-2005 08:03:06  
Thanks so much folks. Some good info and a place to start. Will let you know. Doug



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El Toro

10-29-2005 08:16:39




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 Re: International 340 backfired and died in reply to ankhe105, 10-29-2005 08:03:06  
Sounds like it may have jumped time. Pull No1 sparkplug near the radiator and bring No1 piston up on the compression stroke to TDC. It would be better to hand crank the engine when doing this.
Once you're at TDC check your rotor to see where it's pointing. Should be at No1. Check that distributor cap for any cracks. Hal



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farmall 340

10-29-2005 08:11:58




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 Re: International 340 backfired and died in reply to ankhe105, 10-29-2005 08:03:06  
Mine did about the same thing and it turned out the stationary side of the points had moved down at an angle and was throwing the timing way off. Something to try. Good Luck



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Janicholson

10-29-2005 08:31:29




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 Re: International 340 backfired and died in reply to farmall 340, 10-29-2005 08:11:58  
Diagnosis is the main event.
1}it is getting fuel (or no Backfire)
2)it is getting spark (or no Backfire)
3) The timing is off or it would run fine

Two types of timing, ignition timing and valve timing. Both are direct causes of Backfire problems.

If ignition problem (simple) the points self destructed, ot the rotor/cap got water in them and is crossfiring (why did chrysler name a car for bad ignition). Or the cap got bashed by a branch and moved far enough to break the rotor drive spline on the dist shaft.
If ignition problem (complex) the drive gearing to the distributor has come to grief. somewhere between the hyd pump, and the breaker cam. There are usually gears and bearings, and centrifugal advance springs and stuff in there that might be broken.
The Ignition timing is also directly controlled by the valve timing gears from the crank to the hyd pump drive. If this system goes out, or slips it is either bad , or very bad.
If bad it is just a keywak or drive hub or pump shaft drive giving wrong rotational relationships to thje dist. If it is very bad, it is the valve timing mechanism and that requires removing the fromt cover and getting much dirtier.
Good luck and I hope it is a broken rotor.
JimN

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ray runice

11-07-2005 13:27:38




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 Re: International 340 backfired and died in reply to Janicholson, 10-29-2005 08:31:29  
Well Jim, I think you were right on. While trying many different things, I was in the process of getting # 1 to TDC, lining up the marks,etc. While doing all of this, I could not get the rotor to point to #1 so took out distributor, reset to #1 and no pop. Just for giggles, took cap off to be sure of which way the rotor turned and found that it did not turn at all! AH HA! Dist gears have gone to grief and a rebuilt one is on the way! Thanks all so much!!!

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