Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Farmall & IHC Tractors Discussion Forum
:

Farmall A Heavy Wheel

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
RETCOL

09-22-2005 02:51:43




Report to Moderator

I am sure this subject has been covered on the "Board" before but I can't find it. What side of the Farmall A should the heavier wheel be on and why? I have seen it on both sides. I am assuming the left side is correct when I am sitting on the seat.




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
R. Nicholas

09-23-2005 13:21:17




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
Whatever you do, keep the heavy side up the hill. Running sideways on a hill with the heavy side down is the most dangerous thing you can do with the offset Farmalls (and made even more dangerous with the heavier wheel on the left side).

V.O.E. (Voice of experience)



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Paul in Mich

09-22-2005 14:35:11




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
RETCOL, The type of equipment as some have aluded to in a couple of the posts below is irrelevant as to which side of the tractor the heavy wheel dish belongs. The cast weight wheel belongs on the right side, (seat side). The pressed steel goes on the left (motor side). I know of no application where this would be compromised. The cast wheel is the counter-balance which makes the offset design stable. If more weight is needed for traction, then add equal amounts of weight to both sides. The same goes for liquid ballast. It is also recommended that when configuring with the wheels dished in or out, that both be oriented the same way. In other words if you have one side dished out, the other side should be dished out also. Conversly, if one side is dished in, then the other side should be dished in. Additional adjustments in tire width can be made by positioning the rims on the wheel dishes. There are 8 positions for each side. Four for each way the wheels are dished. All the while keeping the cast wheel dish on the right side.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
W.K.TEDDYBEAR

09-22-2005 07:35:28




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
BOOK SAYS RIGHT SIDE! I JUST PUT NEW TIRES ON MINE AND PUT THE CAST WHEEL BACK ON THE RIGHT SIDE.I AM THINKING THAT THE WHEELS GOT SWITCHED WHEN G-PA REPLACED ONE TIRE. THE TIRE HE REPLACED WAS ON THE STEEL WHEEL,MAY HAVE WANTED THE BETTER TREAD ON RIGHT SIDE FOR TRACTION AND DIDN'T REALIZE THE REASON FOR THE DIFFERANT WHEEL TYPES. THIS MAY HAVE HAPPENED TO MANY OF THESE TRACTORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.BY THE WAY G-PA BOUGHT THIS SUPER A NEW IN 1951. I AM SECOND OWNER OF IT.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Billde

09-22-2005 04:56:05




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
The cast hub belongs on the right side, all the time! If you need more weight on the left for traction or counter-balance ad calcium or a weight.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
scotty

09-22-2005 04:46:33




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
Sitting in the tractor seat, should be to your right, any other way is trouble!

scotty



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Slappy

09-22-2005 04:27:26




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
Mike is correct, the heavy cast wheel was used to offset the engine weight. There may be special circumstances where you would want the wheel on the left, but I would guess for most of us that wouldn't apply. If you keep the tractor on level ground this becomes less of an issue.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
El Toro

09-22-2005 04:07:43




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
I would say the left side if used for plowing since more tractor weight would be on right side
when the right wheel is in the furrow. Hal



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Red Dave

09-22-2005 04:35:47




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to El Toro, 09-22-2005 04:07:43  
Absolutely not! Putting the heavy wheel on the left will cause the tractor to be unbalanced to the left, making it unstable and susceptible to roll over.

Put it on the right-hand side (the drivers side) where it balances out the weight of the engine like IH intended it to.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
George Willer

09-22-2005 06:17:48




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to Red Dave, 09-22-2005 04:35:47  
I think everyone is looking at it backward. It doesn't matter much if an A has a heavy cast wheel on the left side... what is important is that it should never have a lightweight pressed steel wheel on the right. :-)



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Cityboy-McCoy

09-22-2005 08:10:04




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to George Willer, 09-22-2005 06:17:48  
George, with all due respect, I think it must matter. Otherwise, why would IH have gone to the trouble of making two different wheels, one 150 pounds heavier than the other, and equipping each tractor with one of each - heavier one on the right side? Logic says they would have simply made one type of wheel for both sides.
mike



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
George Willer

09-22-2005 14:24:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to Cityboy-McCoy, 09-22-2005 08:10:04  
With all due respect, read what I wrote.

There's no danger at all in having a heavy wheel on the left... the problem would be from a light wheel on the right. Of course another factor is operator weight. IH assumed that the operator was a guy of averave weight, but in your case it may not be true. Who knows?



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Cityboy-McCoy

09-22-2005 15:27:41




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to George Willer, 09-22-2005 14:24:45  
I did read what you wrote. And I still, respectfully, disagree with it. A light wheel on the left and a heavy wheel on the right helps shift the tractor's center of gravity more towards right; two identical heavy-weight wheels make no contribution toward shifiting the center of gravity at all, leaving it up to the rest of the tractor, which is offset.
As for operator weight, hey, how did you know I was a scrawny, 380 lb weakling?
mike

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Paul in Mich

09-22-2005 14:42:01




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to George Willer, 09-22-2005 14:24:45  
Average operator weight was factored into the process by IH. While it may be easy to say that a 280 lb operator may have a different effect than a 180 lb operator, the idea of having the cast weight on the right side does not change because of operator weight. If so, it would necessitate the constant change of weight distribution from operator to operator. Thus, regardless of operator weight, the cast wheel always belongs on the right side, (OPERATOR SIDE).

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Stan(PA)

09-22-2005 08:34:00




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to Cityboy-McCoy, 09-22-2005 08:10:04  
I agree with George. Logic says it was a whole lot CHEAPER to put a stamped wheel on the left. The cast right wheel is to help offset the weight of the engine on the left. Left wheel would be the pivot point of a roll, and the weight of the left wheel wouldn"t have much effect on the roll point. Of course, I could be wrong, happens pretty regular....Stan



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mike@NY

09-22-2005 03:55:42




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to RETCOL, 09-22-2005 02:51:43  
I assume you are speaking of the heavy thick cast center. They are normally placed on the right had side (sitting on the tractor) for balance, as the tractor is offset to the left. I have heard that having the heavy center on the left side can make the tractor more prone to tipping and rolling, but that sometimes they may have been moved over there due to a implement, such as a belly mounted mowing machine (hay bar). Personally, I have mine on the right hand side, always have. Just seems safer to me, and that is the side that always starts spinning on me first. Hope this helps, and I am sure others may jump in as well. Good Luck.

Mike@NY

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Nat

09-22-2005 05:05:46




Report to Moderator
 Re: Farmall A Heavy Wheel in reply to Mike@NY, 09-22-2005 03:55:42  
Bollocks! Under NO circumstances should the heavy cast wheel EVER be mounted on the left side of the tractor, period. The heavy cast wheel is barely enough to balance the tractor.

Plowing with the right wheel in the furrow, or mounting a sickle bar mower on the right side is not going to throw the balance of the tractor off so much that you need to move that cast wheel over to the left side. Remember, the tractor was designed to plow, and carry a mower.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy