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bradiniowa

07-10-2005 09:22:21




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Is it okay to flat tow an M. would there be any damage to the gears or rearend. and what should the max speed be.




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terryjd

07-10-2005 21:45:05




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to bradiniowa, 07-10-2005 09:22:21  
Untill we built a trailer a few years ago my dad pulled his Farmall M all over the countryside to the local antique tractor pulls at the fairs using a homemade tow bar. It has a WF. He welded a plate on the front above the axel, hooked a chain on each side from truck to bolt ontop of spindel so when truck turned it would turn the stearing, worked like a charm. Hooked up rear turn signal lights along with the SMV sign. He went about 20mph with the filled tires and the old M went along great. When pushing 70 years young I guess he was in no hurry to get anywhere but them 2 hour trips to go 30 miles when I went with him got a bit under my skin. Tractor is still going and pulling strong yet with no apparent damage. One thing good is that the new tires he had on it got a good angle to them almost like cut tires from all the miles of towing.

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CNKS

07-10-2005 17:33:28




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to bradiniowa, 07-10-2005 09:22:21  
One problem you may have is that your tow vehicle will feel like it's crawling, the tractor will think it's flying, if you are above the 16 mph 5th gear speed. Be very careful on rough roads, or you may look back and see your tractor upside down.



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Rich Griffin

07-10-2005 17:09:11




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to bradiniowa, 07-10-2005 09:22:21  
There is a small pilot brg on the frt of the trans shaft that will not get any lubrication if it is towed.I wouldnt tow over a mile or two and no more than the mph that has been suggested. Just my way of doing it.



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Hugh MacKay

07-10-2005 13:40:24




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to bradiniowa, 07-10-2005 09:22:21  
Brad: As others have said cool it if those tires have liquid in them, it can go right around the wheel circle and man you will be in space if much speed. I would have to agree with 20 to 30 mph as a limit anyhow.

Having said this, I was coming out a side road one day, saw a Crysler mini van coming with a car dolly and front wheels of a MH 33 straped down in the cradles. This guy was moving so decided it was safer to be behind him than out front. I followed him for about 20 miles on county roads at speeds up to 50 mph. He turned unto 4 lane and yes you guessed it 65 mph. I learnrd later he was a clergyman who lived some 30 miles beyond where I went on 4 lane. Never heard tell of any crashes. Guys tell me he pulled the 33 quite regularly this way. I stayed well back as I was expecting transmission and bull gears to be launched somewhere in space. I guess the lord was travelling with him. By all means don't take this as being safe. The guy should have been trucked off to the funny farm.

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Loyd in Texas

07-10-2005 11:07:17




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to bradiniowa, 07-10-2005 09:22:21  
I have a two wheel cradle, for lack of a better word, that I use. Has a curved floor to hold the front wheels of my narrow front H's. Just hook it to the truck and run the front wheels up in it, tie it down and go. 20 -25 mph will be about it, maybe not that fast with fluid in the rears. Those big tires aren't balanced for road speeds. I have pulled this way from Wolfe City to Farlie about 25 miles. Takes a while.

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Pappy

07-10-2005 21:58:46




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to Loyd in Texas, 07-10-2005 11:07:17  
Now Lloyd, you know it ain't 25 miles from Wolfe City to Fairlie. Heck, it's only about 14 miles to Commerce. Been there, done that.



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colekicker

07-10-2005 10:01:14




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to bradiniowa, 07-10-2005 09:22:21  
I wouldn't go over 20-25. Tractor was designed to go about that speed and I wouldn't push the old girl much faster.



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Dick A.

07-10-2005 09:43:37




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to bradiniowa, 07-10-2005 09:22:21  
The rear tires on my M have a warning not to excede 20 MPH.



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the tractor vet

07-10-2005 10:20:28




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to Dick A., 07-10-2005 09:43:37  
Good thing that i am a truck driver tractor mechanic and can't read cause my S/MTA will do almost 30 on the road and the 806 will run 27



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Don L C

07-10-2005 20:22:32




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to the tractor vet, 07-10-2005 10:20:28  
Tractor Vet -- My guess is somewhere in the past life of your SM/TA...some body has been playing with the govenor and got the RPM screw turned a bit to high....you might want to check it out....that much extra RPM could blow the engine sky high.....



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the tractor vet

07-11-2005 20:32:20




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 Re: flat tow an m in reply to Don L C, 07-10-2005 20:22:32  
Ahhhhh hh? ya think . Mine is runnig at 1975 by my digital tach and yes i turn it up plus it is setting on 16.9X38 sure makes short work out driving to town for the parade but my one buddys 504 diesel will still pass me his is singing at 3400 and it aint come unglued and it has been runnig like this sine 69 he can get a littel over 35 mph.



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