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C Piston Sleeves Out!

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Pharmall

06-06-2005 17:57:45




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Finally got the piston sleeves out using a home-built puller. This was a VERY tight set. It took about as much force as you are comfortable with putting on a 1/2" socket wrench. All four were stuck hard. The only explanation I have is quite a thick layer of crud now visible inside the engine block, and a fair amount of corrosion on the sleeves. The block, o-ring seats, and sleeve flange seats will need a good cleaning. Thanks for all of the suggestions! Think I'll try the "drill two holes" method to remove the crankshaft pulley. Even though it is out of the engine, there doesn't seem to be a good way to chuck it up in a press with the timing gear cover still attached. Jeff

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Pharmall

06-07-2005 10:47:19




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 Re: C Piston Sleeves Out! in reply to El Toro, 06-07-2005 06:38:09  
Hub diameter is 2 5/8", and pulley diameter is 5 3/4". Thought about making a setup like this, but I assumed that the plate would bend with the big cutout. Guess not! Will try this instead of drilling holes in the pulley. The hub is deep enough that the plate being used in place of a bearing seperator could be quite a bit thicker than the one shown in the picture.



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El Toro

06-07-2005 12:33:50




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 Re: C Piston Sleeves Out! in reply to Pharmall, 06-07-2005 10:47:19  
Use 3/4 " plate if you don't think 1/2" plate will
withstand the load. You will need the cutout piece 9X9 or 10X10. When you get a chance get me the bore of the block at the bottom near where the sleeves rest. I think it's somewhere around
3.4". When you 're ready to reinstall the damper pulley put it in an oven and heat it up. 300 degrees should be enough. Hal



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Pharmall

06-07-2005 15:01:58




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 Bore Measurement in reply to El Toro, 06-07-2005 12:33:50  
Sorry, wasn't sure which dimension you were looking for at first. I'm getting right at 3.300 where the o-ring is located (o-ring is removed). Jeff



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El Toro

06-07-2005 16:16:30




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 Re: Bore Measurement in reply to Pharmall, 06-07-2005 15:01:58  
I was asking for the bore diameter of the block where the sleeve is installed. The diameter of the old sleeve at the bottom may be close enough.
Thanks, Hal
PS: A welding friend of mine from work made those pullers for me. He used a cutting torch and cut those notches and the holes after I made him some templates. I just painted them last weekend. I didn't know whether to paint them yellow or red. I used what I had "red".

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Dixieland

06-06-2005 18:18:58




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 Re: C Piston Sleeves Out! in reply to Pharmall, 06-06-2005 17:57:45  
I used a bearing puller behind the pully and a hooked onto it with a three point puller. Came right off. Don't try to remove the pully with just a three point, it can break the pully.



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Peabody

06-06-2005 18:08:10




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 Re: C Piston Sleeves Out! in reply to Pharmall, 06-06-2005 17:57:45  
Congratulations on your successful removal. Your tractor would prefer your referring to the "crud" and "corrosion" as "engine experience." Good luck!



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Pharmall

06-06-2005 18:24:55




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 Re: C Piston Sleeves Out! in reply to Peabody, 06-06-2005 18:08:10  
Yes, I suppose that's fair. The wrinkles in my face will now also be known as "wisdom furrows"! If that guy in the mirror keeps getting older I should be able to kick his a** soon!

What the tractor might also like is an occasional antifreeze change (I know I do!). The "engine experience" was about 3/8" thick on that horizontal casting web where the sleeve seals are located. Don't know if this is normal or not, but seems pretty thick.

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