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How much blow by is too much?

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SAm in NS

01-06-2005 17:46:52




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My Super A has the past couple of times I've used it thrown oil out of the crankcase breather, not an incredible quantity but enough to run over the rocker cover. Someone suggested it might be caused by excessive blow-by. Personally I don't see how but I've got no other explanation, so how much blow-by would it take to cause this. I can see I've got some as you can feel it coming out the cap and see it when the conditions are right. However it starts right up and when it's less than -10C out it'll easily outstart the car which is pretty new. Any thoughts? Thanks, SAm in NS

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Allan in NE

01-07-2005 07:48:04




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 Re: How much blow by is too much? in reply to SAm in NS, 01-06-2005 17:46:52  
Hi Sam,

I don't know a thing about your tractor or it's condition, but here are just some thoughts.

My rule of thumb is: Because all engines must be able to breathe, and in differing amounts depending on the load & rpm, any amount of blow-by is permissible until it turns liquid. At that point, the engine is screamin' at you that something is very bad wrong.

It might just be something wrong with one of the components in the mechanical breathing characteristics of the engine, or otherwise, it is just old fashioned blow-by.

I know people get sick of me saying this, but if someone, somewhere along the line, has been in that engine and just threw in a new set of rings instead of doing the overhaul right, he has set you up for a disaster.

Ringing an engine without any work done on the cylinder wall is a surefire recipe for a short-lived engine failure. Likewise, just touching up the valves and not correcting the valve guides will have the same effect.

Hope this helps,

Allan

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Ross

01-08-2005 11:37:26




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 Re: How much blow by is too much? in reply to Allan in NE, 01-07-2005 07:48:04  
Allan could you be more specific about what you mean by just throwing in rings is a recipe for disaster? Do you mean throwing in rings without honing and removing the cylinder ridge or do you mean that since you're rebuiliding the engine to put in new pistons and sleeves. Since I'm asking you I've got an Oliver that has great oil pressure (pegs the guage), compression readings of 110, 100,105 and 110. However it smokes to beat the band mainly on start up but also occasionally under a hard pull. The tractor set for a while before I bought it so I thought stuck rings but I've got decent compression Do you think the valve guides could be the culprit? I've got no idea on the amount of hours.
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Ross

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Andy Martin

01-07-2005 05:22:41




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 Re: How much blow by is too much? in reply to SAm in NS, 01-06-2005 17:46:52  
Too much blowby?

For looking pretty, very little.

For working, only when the tractor loses power to do the job you are attempting.

I have on old CAT D4D which has a lot of blowby (1 quart of oil per hour including that burnt) but it still pushes dirt.



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Bob

01-06-2005 17:52:12




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 Re: How much blow by is too much? in reply to SAm in NS, 01-06-2005 17:46:52  
Do you have the correct oil fill cap that contains aluminum mesh or "horsehair" to separate the oil mist from the blowby?



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