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Michael Soldan

12-02-2004 07:11:08




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I was reading Allan from NE's post this morning and this brought to mind some of my experience. I don't like farm sales and I don't go to a lot of them. I have bought things at farm sales and got good buys. A farm sale is a man's life laid out before you on wagons, loads of his tools and accessories, what he has taken a lifetime to collect, some his father's or his grandfather's, his machinery may also reflect the generation that bought it and used it. His life time is compressed into a four hour scrum of bidders. His memories of all that he worked for are there to the highest bidder. And there stands that man watching his precious belongings being sold, sometimes a way too cheap and sometimes not and the people start picking up their purchases off the wagons and make their way off the property to their pick up trucks and the day ends.. the farm is bare of its chattels, the shed doors remain open, the corral gate is left open and suddenly that farm is a very lonely and desolate place, everything that made it a farm is gone and so is a good piece of that farmer..I watched my neighbour of 40 years stand and watch his things being auctioned off and there was no joy in his face, no happiness at a good price , it was something painfull that had to be done like putting down an old dog or getting a tooth pulled. I experienced 3 sales like this in my immediate neighbourhood, two of those old farmers are gone the other lives in a small near-by town, their lives were never the same after "the sale"..so thats why I don't enjoy sales much and only go if there is something I absolutely want..I'm not going to have a sale..I will give my son-in-law my old farmalls and hay equipment. My son can have all the tools, accessories, trucks and snowmobiles, the farm willed to my three children, the cattle sold by my cattle broker..I'll know where everything is untill I can no longer know, but I won't have to watch my lifetime disappear in one afternoon...I'm a complicated old bugger aint I! Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Keith T

12-02-2004 18:57:34




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
Some of you guys should maybe get a life .My Daddy 's favorite saying was "Never fall in love with something that can't love you back".Ithink that goes for most material things



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chris va

12-02-2004 14:13:51




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
In ways I do agree. But is some cases it is the only end. For the last 20 years I"ve helped a close friend of mine do auctions here in virginia. It really hit home when my uncle past and his sisters began to argue over who"s child got what. Thank GOD the sister left in charge onf his estate had a good head on her shoulder and did as he wished. If the auctioneer does his job he gets top dollar for the family, because he / she is working for them - not the buyer.
When my time comes each son has been promised a vehicle or special tractor, everything else is to be sold at estate auction and my wife get the FUN job of dividing the proceeds. (How she enjoys the headache - my payback for years of nagging about buying all the equipment).
But like I said if the auctioneer is any good the family is happy, and if the auctioneer is to make anything he has to get good values (most that I know work off a percentage of the sale)
Have a good one!

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dhermesc

12-02-2004 14:22:15




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to chris va, 12-02-2004 14:13:51  
Lot easier to split a dollar up four ways then a tractor.



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Kelly C

12-02-2004 14:07:30




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
It depends I guess. I feel defferently if its a Farm Sale that the bank is making happen. Dont much care for those.

Most farm sales are just a way to get rid of the junk that was left after they sold off all the good stuff.
I know I have a whole trailerfull of stuff I get to pay to get rid of after I paid $5 for the lot. 2 things I wanted and had to take it all to get it.

My Grandfather had sales before he got off the farm. If I'd had some cash then I would have saved some of the stuff. But he was'nt going to keep it till I did so he sold it.
Some times its just timing.

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lee

12-02-2004 11:17:48




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
One thing you come to know in life, rich or poor, born beautiful or of the ugly tree, if you've been here any length of time, you really aren't in complete control of all the twists and turns of fate. Get rich, go broke, divorce, loss of loved ones, accident, illness, job loss, move, sell, you name it, it's all a part of life change. Odd as it seems, all the above can be good or bad depending on the circunstances. Life altering change is generally very hard for most folks. You have to make the best of it, move on they say, so something else can happen to you. If you don't, you are dead. Hopefully the next thing to happen is a good thing. There are plenty of those too, so it's not all gloom and doom. You can help it along. Hard work, perseverence, family, faith (not necessarily religous faith), etc., are the things people use to turn the tide in their favor. Take what comes and venture forward. People who live a long time know how to do this. That's not to say it's easy. I ramble and haven't said a thing you guys don't know.

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Red Barron

12-02-2004 10:47:24




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
I certainly agree for the most part. I just hope that when the time comes Mike, that you are in fact in a position to simply give those things to your son in law. Sometimes as bad and as painful as those sales are, the alternative for those who are having them is even worse. I'm sure there are very few farmers that wouldn't have liked to be able to have given away those things at the end of their careers to a loved one who would cherish and care for them. Sadly reality sometimes deals a different hand.

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Andy Martin

12-02-2004 10:31:42




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
I agree except I like to go to neighbors auctions where the farmer has died and his wife is holding a sale. I'll pay a premium for a few things I don't really need and run up other items I'd like to have. Any time you help get higher prices for the widow you've done a good day's work.

Foreclosure auctions are another thing. I passed up 250 acres (mixed timber and pasture, some bottom land) at $210/acre because I knew the seller. The bank had led him into foreclosure supporting his oil well habits and I did not want to give the bank more than 1/3 of what the land was worth.

The buyer was the only other bidder and was glad I stopped where I did. We have become friends and he truly loves his land. Another 250 acres would be nice but I don't miss it. By the way, there were more black walnuts on the place than I thought, the buyer sold enough logs to pay for the place. I would have never known that because I can't bring myself to sell old-growth timber.

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JD 5020 guy

12-02-2004 10:13:21




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
Your post makes a lot of good points. Just thought I would point out the other side. I have been to a lot of farm auctions were the farmer or seller was more then happy to see his equipment go because they don't have to break their backs trying to make a living by farming anymore and now that they have sold their land, they can take an early retirement and go to Arizona in the winter. I was at an local farm auction this summer and saw the famer/seller walking around with a big smile on his face shooting the breeze with other people explaining some of the equipment to the potential buyers. He didn't look disappointed to me. Some farm auctions I have been to have been the result of the whole farm being enrolled into CRP. The farmer wasn't sad to see his equipment go because now that his land is in CRP he never has to work again but still makes a lot of money. I know people who have sold their farm and equipment by auction and now live in a nice big house in town with a new RV, buy new cars or pickups every year, own boat and take vacations year around. Fortunately for me, I have been to very few auctions were I saw the pain on the seller's face. I was at one were the guy was so old he could just barely climb into his tractors to start them. But there is not much you can do about it other then bid on the machinery so that they sell for what they are actually worth. Or you can do what I did. Many years ago I bought a JD R manure spreader at a local auction. I knew the people. I took it home, go it fixed up and took it to the field. I took a few pictures and sent them a some pictures of our IH 240 pulling the spreader. I was told it brought a smile to their faces because they new somebody was taking care of their equipment.

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Nebraska Cowman

12-02-2004 08:56:32




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
yup, I agree it ain't always pretty. been there on both sides. I've had two sales of my own and it ain't fun to watch things sell for way less than they should. but then your heart takes a little jump as some "worthless" item goes higher than a cats back. But when it's done you have cash in hand and start over.



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dhermesc

12-02-2004 08:00:55




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
A retirement auction isn't that bad - especially if the man has more then one heir - makes it much easier to settle which of three or five or eight sons gets grandpa's Cub or the quarter that all five spent their youth clearing. I've seen auctions where the crowd appreciates a the care the man gave his equipment and tools and it is reflected in the prices abeing bid by freinds and strangers alike.

Much worse situation is not a retirement auction but a foreclosure auction. My father who had grown up in the depression, got his @$$ shot off in Korea and spent 30 years as a more or less successful farmer had thought he'd seen it all. But he wasn't ready for 22% interest and land values that fell by 50% in two years time. Combined with two massive doughts and a grain embargo and he left wondering where he had failed. In 1980 he was formulating a plan for 7 sons who all wanted to farm. Tractors where averaging 1500 to 1800 hours a year and his boys skipped highschool (and some times junior high) classes on a regular basis to be in the field.

In 1985 at the tender age of 53 he stood by as the auctioneer sold every peice of equipment he owned. He was reduced to bidding against strangers who had traveled from other states to bid on the excellent (if not worn) line of equipment he had accumulated. He was died in the spring of 1986 before he reached his 54th birthday.

For that reason I will never attend a foreclosure auction again.

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Allan in NE

12-02-2004 07:31:34




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
Mike,

You hit it right on the head.

They are terrible things; no other way to describe it. Most stuff will only bring pennies on the dollar and a lifetime (or more) of "treasures" simple dribbles down the drain. Then, guess what? That poor old farmer gets the privilege of paying taxes on top of the sales commissions.

This happened to me, so I know.

But, so help me Gawd, I'll get 'er all back and then I'll out and out give it away to my family before ever allowing anyone to 'take' from me again.

Thanks for the nice post; you've touched a nerve here.

Allan

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rustyfarmall

12-02-2004 07:22:20




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to Michael Soldan, 12-02-2004 07:11:08  
I agree with you up to a point. Sometimes, there is no choice but to auction it all off because there are no heirs, or even more sad, the heirs don't want anything to do with the farm, can't wait to get their hands on the money that dad worked a lifetime to accumulate. In that case, I always hope that everything sells dirt cheap.



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steveormary

12-02-2004 10:14:55




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 Re: Clearing Farm Auction Sales in reply to rustyfarmall, 12-02-2004 07:22:20  
Nobody pointed a gun at my head and said sell. Well,mabe the wife and my health situation. We had mabe one family member who might have taken the farm. But it seems that about everyday I wonder why I did. Health is better but wife is as grumpy as ever.

And you are right about some items dont bring close to what they are worth like my 4 tractors and the work van. Other items brought more than you would ever think.

Good luck Allan,hope all goes well for you.

steveandmary

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