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ELMER

03-17-2004 05:50:49




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Been using a Case VA with a belly mower for a few years but it seems to have little power. Am looking at a Super A and was wondering about its use. How's it for power, what other implements can I attach, is a Super A industrial model a better choice? Could use a blade or bucket. Can these be attached? thanks




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Larry

03-17-2004 15:12:35




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 Re: making a change Super A in reply to ELMER, 03-17-2004 05:50:49  

A good running VA Case & A Good running Super A will Have about the same power.
one will do the job about the same as the other.
I have had one of each can't tell the difference in power.
I like the Super A better more user frendly to my way of thinking



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dave thompson

03-18-2004 04:05:40




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 Re: Re: making a change Super A in reply to Larry, 03-17-2004 15:12:35  
G'day,
I'm in Australia and have recently laid my hands on some country, and coming with it is a McCormick Inter Super AW6 Standard. Now, I know nothing of these, but would like to get her up and running. Can anyone give me a few leads, for specs, photos, etc that might help me off the ground with it, please. Hope to hear from someone out there.
dave



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Hugh MacKay

03-18-2004 05:06:13




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 Re: Re: Re: making a change Super A in reply to dave thompson, 03-18-2004 04:05:40  
Dave: I think you are looking at a completely different tractor from the one being discussed in this thread. All tractors produced in Australia during that era used the letter A as the first letter in the model designation, thus your tractor was called the Super AW6, in Britain it would have been called a Super BW6 and here in North America just Super W6. All these would have been basically the same tractor, although some components would have been manufactured in the country indicated in title. Your tractor was in its day the second largest tractor IH built, whereas what we in North America call a Super A was second from the smallest.

The letter series in North America were as follows from smallest to largest Farmalls Cub, A, B or C, H and M and standards were W4, W6 and W9. H and M shared a lot of components with W4 and W6. I don't think all models were produced in Britain or Australia, but any that were had either A or B at beginning of model designation. The C replaced the B in 1947. All tractors except the B became Supers before production ended.

I am not going any further with this, as I am not sure on specific models. If you post a question on here for Guy Fay, he knows a whole lot more on this subject than I. I just wanted to alert you to the facts on the differences. I sincerely hope you persue this, as I for one like to know the history of these old tractors and what was produced where. Model changes were also made at very different dates in different countries.

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Hugh MacKay

03-17-2004 10:15:25




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 Re: making a change Super A in reply to ELMER, 03-17-2004 05:50:49  
Elmer: Having owned 3 Super A, 2-130 and a 140 over the past 45 years I can not add much to what the rest have already said. Stay away from the loader. With a front mounted snow blade they will make larger tractors look not so good. They are very economical to own and operate. Excellent on belly mowers. I still have 3 of those tractors, now if I just had a 40 hp skidsteer loader to go with the tractors, I'd be all set. No point in having a loader if you don' have a tractor to haul the cart.

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TimV

03-17-2004 08:53:56




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 Re: making a change Super A in reply to ELMER, 03-17-2004 05:50:49  
Elmer: The Super A is one of the best mower tractors in existence, at least based on the number used for this purpose. The only (minor) drawback is the lack of a live or independent PTO, which means that the mower stops when you push in the clutch. While you can (and I do, as do many others) use a 5' belly mower on a Cub, the Super A gives you about twice the horsepower (18 vs. 10) and some other nice features such as a 4th (transport) gear. A blade (either front or mid-mount)is a common addition to the Super A, but a bucket (loader) is less common, and with good reason. The Super A's "offset" design makes it difficult to attach a regular loader, and the "one-armed bandit" designs usually seen on them are of limited use due to their tendency to twist under load. Also, the front end of an "A" is not designed to support the additional weight of a loader and a full bucket of material, which can lead to stress failures of the components. If you stick with the conventional attachments for an "A", you'll find it's a wonderful, nearly bullet-proof little tractor, but I'd suggest looking at something different if a loader is on your list of "must-have" implements.

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Bob

03-17-2004 08:30:36




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 Re: making a change Super A in reply to ELMER, 03-17-2004 05:50:49  
If your VA is running properly you ain't gonna see a power increase with the Super A, IMHO, having owned both tractors.



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scotty

03-17-2004 06:50:37




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 Re: making a change Super A in reply to ELMER, 03-17-2004 05:50:49  
Elmer, The Super A is a great little tractor. I have a 49 and also own an A. The Super A is nice because it has the touch control hydraulics that can be used to raise and lower a bunch of different implements. If your going to use it for snow removal, you will be very happy with it. You will need weight on the drawbar and chains but it will move a lot of snow! Alot of the guys also use that blade mid mounted under the tractor as a grader blade, very handy for those long driveways. As far as power I think its about 18hp which is plenty of power for pulling wagons and such. There are many guys on the site that grew up on these machines that can add more info than I can. I wouldnt use a loader on it because it really wasnt designed for that use other than very light duty. Hope this helps.

scotty

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