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wiring for 12-volt conversion 1940 Farmall B

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Jimmy

02-16-2004 11:14:14




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I have just finished putting my 1940 Farmall B back together. I used Robert Melville's wiring diagram #11, "Generic Delco 'single wire' Alternator Conversion" to wire the tractor. I bought a rebuilt alternator. The sticker says NAPA Power remanufactured alternator 213-4013 12V 63A rated. Stamped on the alternator - 110 062 8129 12V NEG. On the back of the alternator there is one stud marked battery, one stud marked GND, two small plugs - the left marked 'R' and the right marked 'F'. When I turned the push-pull switch on the amp gage showed a slight charge. After cranking it still showed a slight charge. I thought it should show a slight discharge when the switch is turned on and then a plus charge after cranking. I changed the wires on the amp gage then when I turned the switch on it showed a slight discharge, but when I cranked it, it still showed a slight discharge. I changed the amp gage wires back to where it shows a slight charge when switch is turned on and after cranking.

Question is: is it wired up right?

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Bob M

02-16-2004 12:04:24




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 Re: wiring for 12-volt conversion 1940 Farmall B in reply to Jimmy, 02-16-2004 11:14:14  
Jimmy - A couple things going on here:

Since your tractor electrics are now negative ground (it came from the factory positive ground) you'll need to reverse the connections again at the ammeter to get it to read correctly.

The alternator as you describe it is an early Delco externally-regulated unit. It must have a regulator and other circuitry (warning light or resistor) connected to the R and F terminals for it to work. A true single wire alternator on the other hand will have an opening on the back for aux terminals labeled 1 and 2, but the actual terminals will be missing or the opening plugged.

You've got several options here:

1 - Get the matching voltage regulator for your current alternator and wire it up, including adding a warning light/resistor. Not terribly difficult to do.

2 - Swap the alternator for a 10SI internally regulated alternator and add the warning light/resistor wiring.

3- Swap the alternator for a true "single wire" alternator.

#1 and #2 will cost about the same when you are finished - and both will work fine. #3 will cost more (single wire alternators run usually about double the price of the 3 wire units). Also there's a risk you're B's motor will not spin a single wire alternator fast enough to get it to "turn on" and begin charging at startup - a characteristic inherent in single wire alternators.

Hope this helps! ...Bob M(elville)

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02-16-2004 11:56:38




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 Re: wiring for 12-volt conversion 1940 Farmall B in reply to Jimmy, 02-16-2004 11:14:14  
Sounds like you don't have a one wire alternator, sounds like a 2/3 wire alternator. You can check to see if I'm right by running a wire from the F termanal to the battery just touch it on the pos post for a moment, if it starts to charge then you have a 2/3 wire one



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