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Rerouting a muffer

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Gramps544

11-10-2003 10:01:02




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I am tired of removing my top mounted muffer evertime I have to go into the barn (not enough clearence to enter with the muffer on). I am thinking about routing the muffer down and on the side of my tractor (IH-544). I would have to have a 180 deg bend at the top and some custom bracket at the side to hold the muffer (upside down I think).

Has anyone else done this? I do have some consern about the exhaust gases venting right under the tractor, but feel routing the tail pipe all the way under the tractor to have a rear discharge is not feasable. I think I would hit this rear tail pipe on everthing (ground clearence issue). Before I do this, just thought I would ask is anyone else has done this with any success.

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Bruce Wa.

11-10-2003 18:47:11




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 Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 10:01:02  
I would point it straight out the front. Then maybe a stack with an elbow. you could then make the stack to swing down to the side when you went through the door. or make it short. I think straight ahead would give you the least fumes. I would think about three inches would give enough clearence from the hood for heat.



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Gramps544

11-10-2003 17:11:13




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 Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 10:01:02  
I did not think about the heat issues. What I realy do not like is everytime I go into the barn, I take the hot muffer off. As soon as I get it in the barn, I put it back on (because it is hot and I do not want the hot muffer to burn down my barn). I know one day, I would back it out and rip the muffer right off of the top.

I thought about laying the muffer parallel with the hood, but then I would I get a face full of exhaust. What might work is to have the muffer this way and run the exhaust right out the front of the tractor. This way the exhaust would discharge the furthest from the driver.

I thought about making a really short muffler and mounting it as the orginal.

I believe the design engineers with a top mounted muffler believe the bulk of the exhaust would go up over the driver. This is true in my case, unless I stand on my tractor while driving. When I do this I get a face full of fumes depending on the wind.

I think the best idea is to have the muffler parallel and then have the tip bend up (toward the sky). This way the fumes would still go up and I should still get it under the barn door.

What kind of spacing do you think I need to keep the heat off of my hood? I do not want all my paint to peel.

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Hugh MacKay

11-10-2003 18:03:26




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 Re: Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 17:11:13  
Gramps: I gather from your post that it is just the doorway height that limits the tractor from going in with mufler on. How much height do you have over tractor hood in the doorway? I think if you cut your top pipe down on your mufler so it will enter the doorway. I would cut it far enough so as to accomodate an elbow on top. Point the elbo to either side or straight forward.

I know fumes and heat aren't very nice to deal with. Under frame exhaust systems worked fine on light tractors like the Ford 8N. However with tractors the size of your 544 heat under your floor boards becomes a big factor. From other discussion I believe your tractor is a utility, right or wrong? My uncle had a new 300 utility, with under frame exhaust. He had to change it, as he put it, if the heat didn't get you the fumes would. Fumes seem to be the worst when operating mounted equipment like mowers, rear blades, etc. Seems like the fumes hit the implement and curl up behind you.

How big of a job would it be to make your doorway higher? I think if I had a tractor the size of a 544, I would want the doorway higher for a number of reasons. Someday you will have other high items you wish to back through that doorway, like mower, trailer, and items you never thought you would acquire.

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Hugh MacKay

11-10-2003 13:56:47




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 Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 10:01:02  
Gramps: I think your last respondant has the best idea. How much would you need to cut off the mufler top pipe? Exhaust systems going under tractors have always been a pain in the butt. They get damaged very easily, you spend half your tractor hours breathing in fumes. Over the years I have driven a few under exhaust tractors, and even if it is piped right to the drawbar I cant hack the fumes.

I remember one time a dealer bringing my dad a tractor to try out. Dad had some hay to bale, and he was baling the second windrow and using bale thrower and wagon. Dad being on a tractor he wasn't used to didn't notice some hay had caught on underside of tractor. When it finally let go on the corner the hay was on fire from exhaust heat. The hay was quite dry that day and before 3 of us got fire out it burned 1/2 acre of hay. I have heard other similar stories. One guy even burned his barn, hay on the ground around an outdoor bale conveyor that moved bales to barn. Upright exhausts can be bad also if to close to ceiling.

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Steve W

11-10-2003 13:47:29




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 Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 10:01:02  
I don't know about your tractor, but I am planning to do this on my BN when it is done. I know the tractor gods may frown, but I have a 2N Ford with a muffler that goes out the back, and it is great. Nice and quiet from the seat, no exhaust in your face. And best of all, the muffler doesn't get snagged on low branches.

Take Care
Steve



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Chas K.

11-10-2003 13:13:31




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 Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 10:01:02  
I am assuming that cutting a few inches off the inlet and/or outlet sections is not enough?? Just covering all bases. I've seen a few with the 90 degree over the hood.



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Randy in NE

11-10-2003 12:24:34




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 Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 10:01:02  
When I was a kid we had a '56 Case 300. You could route the exhaust up above the hood or back under the clutch and rear axle. The latter is the way that we had ours setup most of the time. I don't remember ever having any problems with it running to the back. That is with three boys helping dad farm with it. ;>)



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rustyfarmall

11-10-2003 10:44:09




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 Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Gramps544, 11-10-2003 10:01:02  
Would it be possible to use a 90 degree elbow and have the muffler lay down over the top of the hood?



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Rich

11-10-2003 19:20:30




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 Re: Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to rustyfarmall, 11-10-2003 10:44:09  
Cut a notch out of your door way where muffler would go through. You could put the cut out piece then on a hinge. Just my way of doing it the simple way



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Farmall_Nut

11-10-2003 20:51:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Rerouting a muffer in reply to Rich, 11-10-2003 19:20:30  
I'm with Rich on this one. There are lots of old barns around here that have a "notch" cut in the top of a door opening. Cut it out, hinge it back on, put a little pulley with a nylon rope and away ya go... Of course, I would use this as an excuse to build a bigger shop...LOL Good Luck.



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