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Farmall 140 wiring harness

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Hugh MacKay

04-10-2003 15:55:08




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I've doing some work on Farmall 140, a 1963 model with 6 volt positive ground. Today I had the battery removed for installing a new fuse holder amoung other items. I noticed a real heavy aprox 10 or 12 gauge wire in back of dash not connected to anything. This tractor has original wiring harness and this wire goes all the way to front of tractor via the regulator and generator harness and seems to be coiled up under the water pump. I don't like pulling on it in case it is connected to something. Can anyone tell me what this wire is for, as I think I will have to remove radiator to find out for myself. The wires that go to right head light are tied in with it. They come out on right hand side, the heavy wire doesn't. This is the first time I have seen such a wire in the harness of offsets. It must have a use.

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Jason Bullard

12-19-2004 12:36:36




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 Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-10-2003 15:55:08  
Can anyone send me a picture of a wiring diagram for a 1962 farmall 140.



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Mitch in NC

04-10-2003 19:31:02




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 Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-10-2003 15:55:08  
Hugh,

Just finished replacing the engine in my 1962 140 and found the same wire that you described. The wiring was all taped up, and I pulled the tape loose without really paying attention to what wire went where concerning the lights. After firing the new engine up (which is another story in itself) I proceeded to straighten up the wiring. Got both front headlights and the rear working just fine, but never did figure out where that heavier guage wire went. Mine originated somewhere near the generator and went to just beside the seat. I just put a wire tap on both ends, taped them up and slid a cover over the whole harness.

Mitch

p.s. Never would have gotten that engine and clutch replaced and fired up if it hadn't been for you fine folk on this dissucion forum. Many thanks. Got most of my garden in the ground before the monsoon started in Carolina. MT

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Hugh MacKay

04-11-2003 01:59:10




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 Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Mitch in NC, 04-10-2003 19:31:02  
Mitch: We don't really need to worry about the gardening just yet here in this Ontario heavy clay, of western Middlesex County. I must admit however to having a small amount of sugar peas, beets and raddish in the ground. How well they stood up to last weekends ice storm, I'll know in another week.

On the wire, all I had at my disposal yesterday, was wiring diagram from my 130 manual. It doesn't show this wire, even as an option. My son had picked up a generic service manual whitch covers 100, 130 and 140. I spoke with Sandy last evening, he briefly scaned the wiring harness section of this book, no large green wire. He was going to read a bit more on this to see if it may be covered under options, etc.

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RAS

04-11-2003 08:02:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-11-2003 01:59:10  
Hugh I think the wire is used for the magneto ignition switch only if your tractor is not equpped with starting and lighting. Hope this helps.



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Hugh MacKay

04-11-2003 15:31:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to RAS, 04-11-2003 08:02:07  
RAS: I never like disputing what an IH serviceman tells me. I suspect however you guys don't see a lot of SA, 130 or 140 in your shops anymore. I had one of you guys for a neighbor. He used to tell me, he didn't know much about the offsets. He said,"we never get to work on them anymore." Funny , he did a good job when I took him my distributors, carburators, water pump, etc.

However I don't believe the 10 or 12 gauge wire was ever intended for mag kill switch. Diagrams I have got my hands on today show all mag and distributor ign. wires going along right side of tractor. This heavy wire was made right into the original harness that goes along left side of tractor. In that harness is wires to head lights, 2 wires from generator to regulator, two wires from regulator to ign switch and ampmeter and this heavy green wire, which is not hooked at either end.

My suspicion is this wire is intended for an attachment made for these tractors. Since Mitch found same in his 62 - 140. I have owned 3 Super As and 2 - 130s and none of them had this wire. This looks to me as though wire was designed for an electro magnet, electric clutch, real heavy lights, etc. May be something to do with liquid fertilizer side dress eq. Obviously something new around 1960.

Now here is a good question, how many of you guys have found this wire in the harness of your offset Farmall.

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Mitch

04-11-2003 19:22:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-11-2003 15:31:22  
Hugh,

Just a thought...read something somewhere that mentioned a horn...is that possible?!?

Mitch



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kris erickson

04-12-2003 12:24:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Mitch, 04-11-2003 19:22:29  
hugh, i looked at my 140 manual and i think it might be a wire used if you have magneto ignition to ground magneto when ignition switch is closed. i am not positive but thats my best guess. 1 can copy my manual and send it to you if you like. kris



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Hugh MacKay

04-13-2003 06:01:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to kris erickson, 04-12-2003 12:24:28  
Kris: Thank you on the offer of manual copy. My son has picked up a manual, it's at his place. This is not an emergency.

I must say I have to go with horn idea, first all wiring diagrams on older offsets show mag wire going along right side of tractor, secondly mag. would not require a heavy wire like this. Finally SA, 100 and 130 did not have this wire in harness, and this fact tells me the large wire is for something new as oposed to something old. Mag. and horn respectively will fit that description.

You do as Mitch did, check your manual, I think you will find horn as an option.

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kris

04-13-2003 07:08:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Hugh MacKay, 04-13-2003 06:01:00  
good call, take care



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Hugh MacKay

04-11-2003 19:57:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Farmall 140 wiring harness in reply to Mitch, 04-11-2003 19:22:29  
Mitch: I'll bet your right, I had skid steer loaders on farm and they had a horn, and was a surprisingly heavy wire. I never really thought of doing much passing with 140. I used to do little beeps on skid loader horn to get cows to move for me. I think the cows understood better what horn was for than people do.



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