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Jen

07-23-1999 07:55:06




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Hello! Ive lived on a dairy farm my entire life (19 whole years!!!) and really love tractors. I have a chance to purchase a Farmall M for next to nothing, but i dont really know much about them. We have a Farmall 460 that we use for spreading manure and other little odd jobs. I was just wondering if the 460 and the M were at all similair.

Ive got a couple of other questions also: :)
1. What is meant by "live" hydralics?
2. This tractor has a loader on the front of it. What would this tractor be capable of doing? Could it lift a roundbale for example? Would it run a blower for filling silo?
3. We have a mower that mounts to the under side of our 460, would we be able to attach this to a M?

Im really curious about the Farmall M and would like to learn all that i could. Thank you very much and have a GREAT day.

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Phil Auten

07-23-1999 20:54:39




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Jen, 07-23-1999 07:55:06  
Jen,
I own a '49 M and wouldn't trade it for anything. With an aftermarket 3-pt. (Cat 1) it has no trouble lifting a 500 Lb. Grader blade. If the bale was not over 800 lbs. or so I think it would be no problem. Mine would probably lift more than that, but why work it so hard that it breaks? As for the blower, no problem. The belly mower could probably be mated to the M, but would require nearly all new brackets be bought or made and a new belt and the proper pulley for the PTO. As mentioned in the other posts, having live hydraulics is a big plus. Look for a hydraulic pump mounted between the distributor and the front of the engine, with lines running down the side of the engine. If it's not there, one can be added fairly easily and for not a lot of cash. This lets you operate the hitch or loader with the clutch disengaged, which is handy. As the other fella mentioned, power steering will almost be required to use the loader for anything that weighs over 100 lbs. a scoopful. Too hard to steer otherwise.
The M is a tough, hard working tractor and pretty good looking too! They have about 35 HP as shipped from the factory, but most have been upgraded with oversize sleeves so they have almost as much power as the Super M, about 42. This all assumes that we're talking about a gas tractor and not a diesel. The diesels are quite a bit more complicated and are supposed to be prone to cracking heads (and expensive to fix). If it's a gas M, buy it. You'll never be sorry.

Just my $.02,
Phil

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The Red

07-23-1999 15:36:40




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Jen, 07-23-1999 07:55:06  
Jen, I saw a 706 NF in central IN sell for $2,600. Now it didn't have the enhancements but that price seems high to me.



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The Red. Disregard, wrong post. Durn!

07-23-1999 15:37:57




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 Re: Re: Farmall M in reply to The Red, 07-23-1999 15:36:40  
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Todd

07-23-1999 12:07:15




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Jen, 07-23-1999 07:55:06  
I have a '48 M that I use on my 20 acres. I really don't miss that it doesn't have 'live' hydraulics. I have an aftermarket 3pt that I use to pull a 6' bush hog, and various cat.II implements. I have often wished that I had a front loader though. If you don't buy the M, let me know and I sure will!



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john d

07-23-1999 11:01:27




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Jen, 07-23-1999 07:55:06  
The M will (as mentioned in the other post) seem a little primitive compared to the 460, but things like the shift pattern will be the same, and overall it will feel somewhat familiar. Depending upon what has been done to the M in its lifetime, and its condition, you may find it to have every bit as much pulling power as the 460.

If the 460 can power the blower, the M will likely handle it, and the lifting power of the loader will depend on the diameter of the cylinders and how much pressure the M hydraulic system develops.

A "live" hydraulic system is what you have on the 460. It keeps working when the clutch is pushed, unlike the system that came on the M, which stops pumping when you push the clutch. Live hydraulics can be added to an M (if you're lucky it as been) but the original system can lift a surprising amount with a front loader if the pump is in good shape. Depending upon loader design, and pump pressure, a small round bale is not out of the realm of possibility. If the M does not have power steering, loader work gets tiresome in a hurry.

The mower will likely not fit the M, but they are very versatile tractors which continue to be a very useful, user-friendly, and enjoyable piece of machinery. Good luck with yours!

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The Red

07-23-1999 08:57:11




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Jen, 07-23-1999 07:55:06  
If I could get an M for next to nothing in central IN, I would own it in a heart beat. You will have no problems finding parts for it.



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Kev in Iowa

07-23-1999 08:12:20




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 Re: Farmall M in reply to Jen, 07-23-1999 07:55:06  
The M will seem primitive compared to a 460. The good part was made in great numbers and many people know how to keep them running well.Buy it.



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jw.braun

08-04-1999 20:24:11




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 Re: Re: Farmall M in reply to Kev in Iowa, 07-23-1999 08:12:20  
the M is probly the best tractor ever made still have a 39 i pull on the pulling circut, and a 51 i use every day , that 460 you talked about is by far the biggest junk harvester ever made.no power allway,s broke ugly,it was the tractor that helped john deere over take harvester, i would not trade a old H for a 460, just came back from n.dakota and at a junk yard there there were more 560 and 46o,s than all the rest of harvester tractor,s, get the m and injoy another 25 years of service

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