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pete_5959

04-30-2007 17:46:35




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Found a 1066 being used to bush hog grass. I stopped and asked if it was for sale. The owner said he would part with it. What is the going price for these tractors. I would want it for hay baling small alfafa squares. Is this a good fit? Thanks in advance for your advice.


pete in NC headed for KY.




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pete_5959

05-03-2007 09:39:37




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 Re: 1066 in reply to pete_5959, 04-30-2007 17:46:35  
Fellas I was looking for advice. I currently own A H and SM but have been told not the best to bale with. I have purchased a small farm and looking forward to small sqaures to keep me busy as I have retired from federal service. From the input I have recieved I will keep my eye open for a smaller diesel farmall. Thanks for all the replys..... .



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dhermesc

05-01-2007 07:16:39




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 Re: 1066 in reply to pete_5959, 04-30-2007 17:46:35  
Condition is well over 70% of the price. I've seen running 1066s go for $3500 and good 1066s in the $9000 range (auction prices). That being said a brush hog tears the **** out of any tractor - especially if it a larger bat wing model.

As mentioned below a 1066 is a pretty big tractor for baling square bales. If you backed up to a 806-886 size tractor - especially with a German deisel - you gain a lot of efficiency.

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TSH

05-01-2007 06:21:18




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 Re: 1066 in reply to pete_5959, 04-30-2007 17:46:35  
While I do small bale with mine, necessity not choice, I would rather have something smaller. Bailing with 100+ horsepower is like swatting flies with a sledge hammer; it can be done, but why. Just for comparison. I picked mine up in NW IA last June for $7500. Included a bucket, duals and quick hitch and had 4500 hours on it.



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Allan In NE

05-01-2007 06:47:12




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 Re: 1066 in reply to TSH, 05-01-2007 06:21:18  
I hear ya there!

I don't notice it so much on the big round baler, but my little old mower only takes a swath 12 feet across. Both the 966 and the 1066 are just too darned big to be "nimble".

The smaller framed tractors are just about right.

Allan

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Hugh MacKay

05-01-2007 02:59:49




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 Re: 1066 in reply to pete_5959, 04-30-2007 17:46:35  
pete: Go and get your head examined. There are all kinds of folks baling 30-40M bales per year with a 1/3 of that horsepower. You wont even find it's a very nice tractor on a baler.

It will give you a new perspective on fuel consumption. When you step up to a parts counter, it can relieve you of thousands within minutes.



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chadd

05-01-2007 07:40:01




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 Re: 1066 in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-01-2007 02:59:49  
"go and get your head examined!?!" Isn't that a wee bit harsh? Not to say that Hugh MacKay or Allan in NE are wrong, or to start an argument(I am just trying to provide another viewpoint), we use our 966 and 806 to bale square bales. Having the extra weight is nice on hills with a full wagon of 180 bales behind. The sixteen speeds are better than the 5 speed on the M and W6 for baling and you don't have to worry about coasting down hills, so the TA is actually usable for baling. The IPTO is wonderful (but many smaller tractors have it too). My mother and sister are an important part of getting things done on the farm, and they only feel comfortable on the larger and more operator friendly tractors. When I use the baler and there is no rain in the forecast, the W6 goes on, as that is the tractor I enjoy using the most. If there is rain coming though, the 806 is the one I put on, as it is much faster.

We had a 656 Hydro gas, and I can tell you replacing it with our 806 diesel just about cut our fuel bill in half. We also got our 806 cheaper than any 656 or 756 in the area, by a significant margin, and have had it for 10 years now without any significant repairs (knock on wood). I wouldn't hesitate to use it on whatever the 656 was used on. The 966 gets used on the round baler most of the time now, and the 806 gets used on the square baler. They are also both used for cutting.

That being said, a 1066 might be a little bit of a stretch for normal haying, especially if you have an older, lower capacity baler.

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Hugh MacKay

05-02-2007 03:03:27




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 Re: 1066 and head examined in reply to chadd, 05-01-2007 07:40:01  
Chadd: Bear in mind I really meant no disrespect suggesting he should have his head examined. To start with anyone doing small square bales in 2007, must have a strong back and weak mind, unless he has hundreds of acres of flat land and automatic bale wagons. I also mean no disrespect by that statment, been there and done that. The last year I did small square bales was 1975, and did that with SA, 130, 300, 560 and 656, 9ft haybine, two rakes, baler with thrower and 5 - 20' wagons. Sure that system will put up a lot of hay if you have an army around to handle the bales at the storage. That was my biggest reason for leaving square bales, couldn't find the 15 men it took to keep that machinery working at peak efficiency. I actually baled more hay in 1965 with less horsepower.

Yes, you can talk all you want about 100 hp tractors and high capacity balers, but unless you have a system to take care of bale handling and storage, what good will a 100 hp tractor be. Automatic pickup bale wagons are the only way I can see one could keep up with bale handling. I've never had a bale wagon, neighbor did and it worked well on flat land, but I have seen him uttering a few choice 4 letter words on hills.

Even when I baled with Farmall 300 and NH S-69 with thrower, it took 15 men to handle those bales at storage, and you had to be unloading two wagons at the same time. If you put slide chute on baler and pull wagon it will only add to the labor demand. Dropping the bales on ground will only add more labor.

Nothing wrong with big tractors, but you need the equipment system to make them work. I never had my 1066 hooked to my square baler. I did hook it up to my round baler a few times. I found the 560 or 656 could round bale just as much hay per hour as 1066 and they were doing it on 1.5 gallons of fuel per hour rather than 5 gallons per hour with 1066. Something else I noticed and my baler operation was always done by hired help. There was a lot more hay left on field with 1066 baling, why?, because the tractor was just too big and clumsy for the job.

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chadd

05-02-2007 06:16:53




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 Re: 1066 and head examined in reply to Hugh MacKay, 05-02-2007 03:03:27  
Yep, I understand what you mean. We sell small square bales because the horse people we sell to will not feed large square or round bales because they don't want the equipment that is required to feed them. We actually don't store any hay anymore. We take orders in spring and the bales are taken off the wagon in the field.



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Hugh MacKay

05-01-2007 18:41:09




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 Re: 1066 in reply to chadd, 05-01-2007 07:40:01  
Chadd: The guy that said swatting flies with a sledge hammer was dead on.



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Allan In NE

04-30-2007 18:27:13




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 Re: 1066 in reply to pete_5959, 04-30-2007 17:46:35  
Depending on the area, they'll average probably $9K-$10K.

Boy! That's an awfully big tractor to be putting up small square bales. :>)

Allan



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