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Are you using multi grade oils?

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Jon with an M

01-08-2002 09:40:47




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I would like to hear from anyone who has switched to using multi grade oil in older tractors. What weight are you using. How long have you been running it. How hard do you run your tractor and have you experienced any oil related problems.

I have a 41' M and currently run straight HD 30 here in Maryland. I want to use my M to push snow and thought 10W 30 would be easier on it for those cold starts.

Thanks, Jon M.

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Curt (NW Wis)

01-08-2002 18:04:52




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
I use 5-30 in my 340. Northern Wisconsin climate. It seems to work good for me.



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Lars

01-08-2002 16:42:56




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
Jon:

Please see the excellent YT article by Francis Robinson. This should address all of your oil questions.

In addition, the YT site has a wealth of information ranging from oil and distillate fuel to general care of your tractor. The articles are given as a link on the left side of the page. Other information can be gleamed by searching older topics or questions.

I apologize if this was discussed earlier in the thread.

Lars

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brianh

01-08-2002 12:29:30




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
The instruction book for my MD calls for 10W oil thinned with kerosine or diesel fuel in cold weather. So, since the goal here is something thinner than 10W, I put 5W-30 in it in the wintertime. Good cold starting is important since I plow snow with it. Starts good and holds oil pressure good when it's hot, so I think its OK.



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john d

01-08-2002 11:58:12




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
Oil has improved a lot since the old Farmalls were built, but the functions of oil remain the same: cool, clean, lubricate, and seal. Modern multi-grade oils will do everything your old M requires, and do it far better than the SAE 30 non-detergent stuff that was in it when it left the factory.

Starting an engine when it's very cold, or after it has set idle for a long time are two of the highest-wear situations it will experience. The thinner (at low temperature) SAE 10W30 will allow it to get vital lubrication sooner than straight SAE 30 when the temperatures are very low. If the engine is in good enough shape to maintain proper oil pressure when it warms up, 10W30 won't hurt it a bit! If the engine is nearing the time of a needed overhaul, put in 10W40, and the oil pressure will stay up a little better.

Many of the old Farmalls don't work hard enough any more, or long enough at one time, to get the oil as hot as it used to get when the tractor was out in the field tilling the ground all day. For this reason, modern high-detergent oils will keep the inside of it cleaner, and better fight the effects of condensation in an engine that runs for brief amounts of time.

I've run 10W30 in my M and SM for years in the winter, and have pushed lots of snow with each. They've each run lots of hours doing tillage and planting with either 10W30 or 10W40 in them. Oil consumption has not been a problem, and neither has suffered any damage.

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jdp

01-08-2002 16:33:36




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 Re: Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to john d, 01-08-2002 11:58:12  
I couldn't have said it better myself. I do use a lot of 15W-40 instead of 10W-30, but either one is better than 30 weight. I wouldn't tell my worse enemy to put non-detergent oil in a tractor.



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Sven

01-08-2002 10:58:10




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
I live on the cold Canadian prairie and use my 400D to push snow. I have been using 30w in it during summer and when temps drop below 0F (-20C) I put 1 1/2 quarts of kerosene in the crankcase and 1/2 cup in the airfilter. This is what the manual suggested, and it works. Thins the oil just right for winter. But I do have to change the oil in spring. I've also noticed that 2 quarts of kerosene in the diesel fuel helps too.
Part of my winter supplies include a gallon of kerosene and a warm fully charged 1000 cca battery.

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Steven@nd

01-08-2002 10:36:32




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
In the winter we run straight CaseIH 10w in most of our tractors. I have run some 15W-40 also with good results.

Steven



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Dave_Id

01-08-2002 10:29:21




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
My new Massey diesel recommends using 15w40, so that's what I use in all the tractors. I use Case/IH #1 oil, and Fleetguard filters. You can be sure, if IH had the quality of oils they have today back then, they'd definitly recommend them.



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IHpuller

01-08-2002 09:46:31




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
i run non detergen 30 wt. case oil year round in my engine and hydrolic pump. i work all my tractors everyday cutting wood or pushing snow. i have an m an h and dad has a few older models. all do good with the 30 wt. if your electricle system is good cold starts shuld be that big of a problem. itll just crank a little slower. i have herd of guys using lighter oils though. i am in western new york and it gets pretty cold here. try em and see what you like. just make sure yore oil is a non detergent. derek

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KLF

01-08-2002 16:27:58




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 Re: Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to IHpuller, 01-08-2002 09:46:31  
He doesn't have to use that non-detergent crap if he has been using regular oil right along. Do your engine a favor, get rid of that non detergent $#!^, and you haven't been using it, don't!!!!



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carp

01-08-2002 09:46:22




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 Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to Jon with an M, 01-08-2002 09:40:47  
I have always run 15W40 rotella in my 41 M and my other farmalls. Some of the guys on this board recomended changing to stait 30 weight oil. So as I am changing the oil in the tractors I have been chaning to 30 weight. I have noticed that I carry a higher oil pressure with strait 30. I have the the 15W40 in my M for about 4 years with no problem though.



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Jordan Flagstad

10-31-2002 19:05:37




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 Re: Re: Are you using multi grade oils? in reply to carp, 01-08-2002 09:46:22  
I think I will switch to Mobil 1 synthetic 10w-30 in my '49 M. I work it pretty hard and it gets cold here in MN. I run synthetic in everything I own and have had VERY good results.

Jordan



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