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IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there?

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Jim Ray

10-22-2001 18:21:28




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I purchased a 1440 IH combine and have learned there is no way to keep the brakes working. Has anyone sued IH due to an accident? I nearly had one coming home as I ran out of fuel and had to ditch it.

Has anyone adapted some sort of disc brakes to this machine?




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Bob Kerr

10-24-2001 19:21:20




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
I am not familiar with the 1440, but I can relate something similar. I have a friend who is an engineer and he worked for Catapillar a few years back designing an auxilliary braking system for the super large mining trucks, you know, the SUPER big ones they use in the large open pit copper and iron mines. The older trucks had hydrualic systems that controlled everything like brakes, forward and reverse drives, and steering.If the engine died, so did the brakes and steering and if the driver was lucky the machine would be pointed at the side of the rock wall when it happened or the whole rig would go off the road and down the side of the pit.Lets just say not many guys were lucky and very few survived, not to mention a multi-million dollar truck crashing and becoming it's own $15,000 scrap pile at the bottom of the pit. The system he designed had a pump driven by an electric motor with very large batterys that were controlled by a pressure switch. If the pressure dropped(like if the engine died) the motor would turn on and drive an auxilary pump and feed enough pressure to get the steering and brakes back online, much to the delight of the by now sweaty palmed and sheet white driver. If you are creative you can make your own system like this, but like I said I don't know what kind of brake system the combine has and if it could be adapted like this.Just an idea and might be cheaper than dealing with a lawyer.

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The Red

10-24-2001 05:19:30




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
Jim check out the site below. That may be a good place to post your question.



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Steven

10-23-2001 08:44:41




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
This is a common problem on all 14 series combines. BUT THINK ABOUT IT! If you pull the hydro lever back it will stop faster than any brakes can! Most everyone that owns one of these knows of the problem and bleeds their brakes before going down the road.

Steven



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jl

10-23-2001 08:42:00




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
The farmer who puts in the crops on my farm has a new to him 1440 this year. As he was going down my hill which is very steep the combine jumped out of gear and he could not stop it with the breaks, or get it back in gear so that the hydro would work. He went thru a gate and carried it across a county road and finally stopped in a bean field. Everyone told him that the breaks never work on these combines because you never use them with the hydro.

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Your post doesn't make much sense

10-23-2001 07:23:45




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
Why would you need to apply the brakes if you ran out of fuel? Just let it coast to a stop. Sounds like you need some fundamentals in how to drive a combine.



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Gentle Ben

10-23-2001 09:26:05




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 Re: Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Your post doesn't make much sense, 10-23-2001 07:23:45  
Well, lets see now- I've just run out of fuel, and I'm on a 6% grade downhill. I'm following your advice and trying to coast to a stop, but I seem to be going faster instead of slower. So now what?

But seriously, folks- do you guys really drive these things around on the public thoroughfares without brakes? I've always found, as a general proposition, that you really need a pedal that will stop a machine without depending on the engine running, etc., in case a kid runs into the road, car pulls out, etc. I can't believe you're chastising a guy because he prefers not to drive without brakes.

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Denny Frisk

10-23-2001 06:07:05




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
It amazes Me that people are still wanting to sue a company that legally hasn't existed for almost 20 yrs.



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Guy Fay

10-23-2001 19:49:40




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 Re: Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Denny Frisk, 10-23-2001 06:07:05  
Wrong. All they did legally was change the name. Navistar still gets plenty of lawsuits over farm equipment- they retained liability as part of the deal with Tenneco when IH sold the ag division.



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Bermuda Ken

10-22-2001 20:02:11




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
Funny, but we have several dozen customers with Axial Flows and have never had a brake failure problem.

Axial Flows already have disc brakes. CNH still offers the service parts to fix them.

Are pushing the correct pedal?? Its two pedals on the RIGHT side of the steering column. The LEFT pedal won't stop you at all. It might pay to order an owners and parts manual and read them too!!



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TX IHto bone

10-22-2001 19:39:51




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 Re: IH 1440 Wreck waiting to happen..any law suits out there? in reply to Jim Ray, 10-22-2001 18:21:28  
Yeah, go to mechanic school. Study Brakes 101. Or pay a real mechanic to fix it. Better yet before you bash RED equipment, go buy green where you will have to 2nd mortgage your house to fix it.



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