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Question about Farmall with Farmhand on steel

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Bill Smith

07-10-2001 22:55:10




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This story all starts back a few years ago when we used to have an old time Farmhand loader on an H farmall. You know, the old loader that went clear around the whole tractor. Some of the old timers called them the hay stacker. Well, when I was in high school I decided to restore the old H, so I talked dad into putting the farmhand loader on an M. After restoring the H, I refused to put the Farmhand back on the H becuase it added enough height to the tractor that it wouldn't fit into the shed. The H under a roof was a must to maintain its restoration. Over the years I have put together another H Farmall to use as an old beater. I have added steel wheels to its rough look all the way around. Skeleton on the rear. Well the M Farmall proved out to handle the Farmhand loader better than an H even though it barely fits in the middle of that old loader. The problem is the M is in need of some work now. It needs overhauled. I was thinking of taking the farmhand loader off the M and putting it on the H on steel. I am young enough that I didn't grow up around these steel wheeled tractors and have only been around this one H of mine on steel. It took a little getting used to, let me tell you, of running a tractor on steel. I have always said if you are into antique tractors you better have atleast one on steel. I really enjoy the little H on steel now that I have got some experience driving it. I have noticed that in damp or lose ground the H sinks a little lower and that in itself takes away a little horse power. I thought for pileing hedge and locust trees a tractor on steel wheels and a farmhand loader would be just the thing. Insuring that there would be no flats. But you know how it is with a loader, there is always a heavier job that needs to be done around the farm from time to time. These farmhand loaders add quit a little weight to a tractor and I was wondering how an H on steel would get along with a Farmhand loader. Would I be to light on the back? Would I be to heavy on the front? I am a little cuirious as to how this will all work out. We usually had fluid in rear tires when we had farmhand on other tractors. There is no way to add wieght to the rear steel wheels. Would the front wheels be saseptable to sink or break? I would certainly not want to break them. Any tips or knowledge on this combination of equipment would be appriciated.

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Farmall43

07-10-2001 23:06:50




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 Re: Question about Farmall with Farmhand on steel in reply to Bill Smith, 07-10-2001 22:55:10  
Actually with J hooks and a little inguniuty you can put wheel wheights on the old steel wheels. As for the rest of it a loader is always hard on a front end. The main rod on my 43' H has been broken and repaired atleast 3 times that I know of becuase of being abused whe it had a loader on it. My grandfather had 6-16 front tires on it to help keep it from sinking as much but that I believe also added to the stress on that shaft. I believe that if you look at the problems you mentioned that there is an answer out there you just need to think like a farmer in 1940 and make it work with what you have around. Best of luck and may you find the answers. Oh by the way if you find you need an extra steel wheel let me know I just happen to have one off an F-12. Farmall43

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Bill Smith

07-11-2001 15:40:35




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 Re: Re: Question about Farmall with Farmhand on steel in reply to Farmall43, 07-10-2001 23:06:50  
I was at a sell one time and they sold a number of F-12 and F-14 steel wheels. Mainly for the rear. I got to wondering that day if they would fit on an H Faramll and so I meassured the wheels and the axel on an H also selling that day and if I remember correctly I came up with odd measurements and therefore thought they weren't interchangable. That was a few years ago and maybe I measured wrong or something but I don't think F-12 wheels will fit on an H. You never said wheather it was a front or a rear but that might make a difference to some of these boys in here. I am like F14, I live in Kansas and shipping would be to much. Anyway I don't have an F-12 to put it on. Hope you can find someone to bye it from you. You shouldn't have trouble finding a buyer.

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F14

07-11-2001 03:30:49




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 Re: Re: Question about Farmall with Farmhand on steel in reply to Farmall43, 07-10-2001 23:06:50  
Farmall 43, where are you? I just got a call last night from a fella looking for steel wheels for an F12. I'm in Maine.



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Farmall43

07-11-2001 06:38:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Question about Farmall with Farmhand on steel in reply to F14, 07-11-2001 03:30:49  
Michigan, Lansing area



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F14...No Kidding?

07-11-2001 12:31:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about Farmall with Farmhand on steel in reply to Farmall43, 07-11-2001 06:38:08  
Grew up west of St. Johns a ways, graduated from SJHS. Small world. Too far to ship a steel wheel tho...



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Farmall43

07-13-2001 22:47:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about Farmall with Farmhand on steel in reply to F14...No Kidding?, 07-11-2001 12:31:14  
Yes it is too far to ship a steel wheel. I live about 25 miles south of lansing. As for the F-12 rear wheel they will fit an H. I have cut offs on the H now that belong to an F-12. Hope that helps and F-14 I hope your guy finds a set of steel rears. They are getting harder to find.



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