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Changing Rear Tires

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F-Dean

07-02-2001 04:17:15




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Anyone have an easy (and cheap) way to change a rear tire? I have an F-20 with fluid in the rear tires and I am concerned about rust. I have drained the tires by gravity but I believe there is still some fluid in them. I would like to take the rear tires off, paint the inside of the rims to protect them and put in new dry tubes. Any ideas/advice?




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IHtiM

07-05-2001 10:11:50




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
I have found by the time I take the rim off the tractor (draining as much fluid out as possible so I can handle the thing without getting killed), haul it to the shop, pay, haul it back, put back on the tractor, fill with WATER (live in Florida), I can fix the tire on the tractor about as easy. Now for the confession, pop the bead with a loader bucket on another tractor, if available of course.

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Mike S

07-02-2001 21:21:45




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
I use a high lift jack to break to beads.



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Andy Martin

07-02-2001 19:40:00




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
Breaking the beads will be the toughest part. Large tires pry off and on easily. Doing it on the tractor is easier if you don't have a spare and can leave the tractor tied up. I usually put on a spare and fight turning the rim over on the floor.

I like to paint the rim good and let it set a week or more to cure the paint. Then use lots of baby powder to help the tube slip in place. They can get hung up on fresh paint.

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Bill Oakes

07-02-2001 18:07:23




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
Hi Dean,
Did you say "cheap AND easy"? You're asking alot. For cheap, you have to do it yourself; which ain't that easy. Whether you do it yourself or not really depends on you. For me, I enjoy doing anything and everything that I am able with my tractors; I just enjoy it! I change my own tires. I suggest that, however you do it, you get it apart, sandblast and paint the rims, use a new tube and put it together dry. If you live close to me I would love to come help, Bill

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Ryan - IN

07-02-2001 12:33:49




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
I don't know what kind of rims you have on your F-20, but on our '39 with cast centers, it has the semi type bead lock ring. . .I have done the semi tire sized ones and they are dangerous enough. I wouldn't even attempt to try the ones on the F-20 myself.



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Don

07-02-2001 08:05:02




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
Drive the tractor next to a solid pole or post. Jack up the wheel next to the post so it can be turned freely. Use a handyman jack with the base against the tire right next to the rim. Put the jaw of the jack against the pole. Starting working the jack and this will push the bead of the tire away from the rim. As the tire is pushed away from the rim keep working the wheel around until you have loosened the tire all the way around the rim. Then put your your jack on the inside of the rim and use your drawbar to brace the jaw of the jack. Repeat the same thing as you did on the outside of the wheel. After getting both sides of the tire loose pull the outer bead off the wheel with a tire iron then remove the tube. This has always worked for me.
Don

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Dave T

07-02-2001 06:44:14




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
I have a pretty good relationship with my local tire guys. I have them do all my work. Last time I took 4 tires in for 2 tire swapping. and I had two wheels drained. They pumped out the cc. for nothing, and charged me for 2 tire flats. $50. Thats well worth the labor involved busting those old tires...



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Haas

07-02-2001 05:57:32




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
Easiest way is to find your local farm store that handles tires and take the rim there. Of course that will be fairly expensive. Mine charges $4 per inch of tire width. About impossible to get all the fluid out unless you have vacuum equipment to suck it out.



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RAW in IA

07-02-2001 04:48:42




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 Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to F-Dean, 07-02-2001 04:17:15  
I changed on on our F-20 last summer, but it did not have fluid in int. The old one roted till it blew, that's how long it was on. Had to cut the bead to get it loose. After that it was not bad, the "new" used opne went on gairly easy. With fluid I would think you would be just as well off taking it to a tire place. In fact I did that with my cub which had fluid in and had to replace one rear tube. Had the fluid left ou opn that tire. Good luck. Roger

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George Willer

07-02-2001 06:36:59




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 Re: Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to RAW in IA, 07-02-2001 04:48:42  

Breaking the bead will be by far the hardest part. They really hang on if the rim is rusted. At my age, (66), I sometimes take them to a tire shop just to get them broke loose. That little runt is an artist with the wedge shaped hammer. He lubricates the bead with a product called "Skid" before he starts. He does it for $10 per tire, if they are really stuck bad...free if they aren't.

You can do a much better job of cleaning the calcium residue out of the tire and protecting the paint than any tire shop will. Wash the tire out well...with a power washer if you can. The tube will be easy...use a new one, it won't have any calcium. Mounting is easy if you do it with the rim on the tractor. Gravity is a really good helper. I did the same thing on 12 rear tractor tires in 2000. I only took the ones in I couldn't break loose.

George Willer

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S-E Michigan Part Timer

07-02-2001 16:33:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to George Willer, 07-02-2001 06:36:59  
Of course, the easiest way as suggested is to have it done. If you want to tackle it, I haven't found a tire yet that will stand a chance against a slide-hammer. With the right tire tools and a slide hammer, I can have a 12x38 off the rim in about 10 minutes or less. Depends if you have it flat on the ground or on the tractor. All the tools you need are available at most farm supply stores- such as TSC in these parts.

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Rick

07-02-2001 17:08:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Changing Rear Tires in reply to S-E Michigan Part Timer, 07-02-2001 16:33:28  
Do you use the slide hammer with the tire still on the tractor?



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