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cyborgben

05-22-2001 17:30:31




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i have an A with belly mower that has run well and started easily for 5 years, with the exception or 2 blown D-21's...but that's another story. I was recently cutting and just lost a little power in mid-cut, basically had to drop down a gear from normal and still bogged down easily. suspecting only 3 cylinders firing, I checked plugs first and found a little oil on 2 of them so i changed them and made a note to check oil level. I already had a points, condenser, rotor kit so i did that too. the oil was significantly overfull, how i did that i don't know but i dropped her to the low petcock and then added a quart. now the problem... i can't even get it to start! here are the things ive tried:
set points twice with .020 feeler
checked condenser conections twice
pulled each plug and found spark in all when touched to the frame
did the thumb test on compression and all 4 seemed about the same
cleaned air filter and put in new oil
confirmed that gas gets to carb - leaks out when choke left on
also, there is no apparent engine sound change or difference in exhaust properties
HELP!
I don't know what to check next!
When i unbolted the mag. to replace the condenser could i have messed up the timing? also, if i get her to start, any thoughts on the lost power?
SORRY THIS IS SO LONG, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE ALL THE FACTS...ANY THOUGHTS ARE APPRECIATED. Im no mechanic but no dummy either, also, i take citicism well, and know when to follow the advice of those wiser than i am. thanks in advance.

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v. jaspers

05-25-2001 10:39:20




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 Re: in need of A smart person in reply to cyborgben, 05-22-2001 17:30:31  
better check the drain plug on the oil pan for water. I may not be as smart as the others, but I suspect a bad head gasket. Letting water down thus raising the oil level and passing some compression to either the cooling system or an adjacent cylinder, thus the loss of power.



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Donnie Miller

05-22-2001 21:13:56




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 Re: in need of A smart person in reply to cyborgben, 05-22-2001 17:30:31  
Dont know how smart but it sounds like water in Fuel try draining in a clean glass & check it



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gene b

05-22-2001 20:23:13




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 Re: in need of A smart person in reply to cyborgben, 05-22-2001 17:30:31  
you have changed so many things it is hard to say now better start with checking the marks on the fly wheel to make sure you are in time



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jimmy

05-22-2001 18:29:09




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 Re: in need of A smart person in reply to cyborgben, 05-22-2001 17:30:31  
try setting those points at about .014 to .015 for mag. also check impulse on front of mag could be bad. impulse backs timing up to o degrees when cranking then advances to 14 degrees after starting. hope this helps to get you going again.



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Haas

05-22-2001 18:21:13




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 Re: in need of A smart person in reply to cyborgben, 05-22-2001 17:30:31  
Are you getting the spark at the right time??? If you unbolted the mag, you may have got it 180 degrees out of time. I think there are only two lobes on the distributor cam, but of course 4 cylinders. so if you happened to turn it 180 degrees when you put it back on it won't work. Try taking it back off and rotate 180 and put it back. If that's what it is, you are going to get back firing through the intake when you try to start it. It may even blow oil back out of the aircleaner.

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George Willer

05-23-2001 06:57:15




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 Re: Re: in need of A smart person in reply to Haas, 05-22-2001 18:21:13  
.020" is too wide for a mag. IIRC, the manual will specify .013". Make sure the points are absolutely clean. Unbolting the mag and reinstalling it could easily have it firing on the exhaust stroke...you want it firing on compression stroke.

Your extra oil came from the hydraulic system, through a bad pump seal.

I'm still serving my apprenticeship for smart person, but I would strongly suggest a manual.

If your loss of power was plug related, this will get you going...good luck.
George Willer

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