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Super A...Splitting Tractor

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Tyler (MD)

04-21-2001 05:09:48




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Well, and it's a deep subject, I'm going to split the Super A and do some clutch work. I think I have a bad pilot bearing/bushing. I'm having trouble with the imput shaft taking so long to spin down to allow me to put in gear without grinding. Also when I push down on clutch pedal to disengage, there's a slight load on the engine and if I hold down on the pedal for about 30 seconds, some smoke is visible. The release bearing is warm at this time, but not hot enough to smoke. I have greased the bearing carrier, and throw out bearing. I have the idle set properly. I have changed the tranny fluid to the 80/90w stuff. None of this helped much to minimize the grinding. So it's time for some new parts (Rockford clutch, throw-out bearing, pilot bushing, resurface flywheel?). While I'm in there, I need to replace the rear crank seal, it leaks a little. Should I replace any other seals?

I need to know some in's and out's as far as splitting the tractor. Any tips or information would be appreciated. I have manuals but would like to get some opinions from fellers that have done the job.

I will be working out of a car port with a cement floor. It has no ceiling joists.

Thanks in advance for the pointers. Thanks to GeneB for some previous advice.

Tyman

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Will

04-22-2001 02:44:43




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 Re: Super A...Splitting Tractor in reply to Tyler (MD), 04-21-2001 05:09:48  
Dave,the bar deal is a exellent method.Tyler, the gas tank don,t have to come off just take out front bolts,but when pushing everything back to-gether prop the front of the tank up an inch so the brackets won,t butt each other.By the way two people are better than one for this job.I would like to help,but I,am in the big white north and your in the sunny south. Will



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Dave

04-21-2001 16:53:31




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 Re: Super A...Splitting Tractor in reply to Tyler (MD), 04-21-2001 05:09:48  
When I did this, I rolled the front end away from the back. I have heard that Will's way is easier, but I did what I had room for. To keep the engine level, the best way is to stick a bar or pipe about four feet long though the cultivator bracket behind the steering gear. Block up the left end of the pipe. Otherwise the engine flops to the left. You can also use it as a lever to wiggle the engine a bit if you need to when putting it back together.

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Will

04-21-2001 14:40:03




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 Re: Super A...Splitting Tractor in reply to Tyler (MD), 04-21-2001 05:09:48  
Tyler,I just split my super A the other day.My problem was flywheel teeth were wore half off in one spot[I heated ring gear and with hamer and drift spun ring about 12 inches]make sure you check your ringgear for wear.Procedure:blocked up front half using wide plank under oil pan,there is no undo pressure on pan.Wedge a 2x6 under left hand axle and tire to keep engine from tipping down to axle.Put roller jack under flat pad under trany housing.Use back wheels to roll trany apart,putting tractor in gear whenever you need to stop or reached the satisfacty split.Good Luck!!!

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Dave T

04-21-2001 07:33:08




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 Re: Super A...Splitting Tractor in reply to Tyler (MD), 04-21-2001 05:09:48  
You might consider replacing the seal on the clutch shaft. You'd need to remove the torque tube to do it. Somebody said it was easy. But since you put in new tranny oil,( I assume lighter than the molassis that was in there), there is a good chance that old seal will start to leak once it gets warmed up. It's better to do it now, than to have to split it again



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Dave T

04-21-2001 06:52:11




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 Re: Super A...Splitting Tractor in reply to Tyler (MD), 04-21-2001 05:09:48  
When I split my Super C, I cross blocked up the rear end, then used a cherry picker hoist to lift up the front end, and roll it away from the rear. This worked real well. I removed the pan so it wouldn't be dammaged. I have the early Super C with the graphite bearing. That was junk. Spendy replacing I might add. My pilot bearing was worn .150" and the clutch basically did what yours is doing. In removing the pilot bearing, I took a mini-grinder with a small burr and ground a groove thru the wall thickness of the bushing. This allowed the bearing to pull out with just my fingers. Good luck, it's not as bad as a guy first think it is....Dave

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Dave T

04-21-2001 06:54:48




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 Re: Re: Super A...Splitting Tractor in reply to Dave T, 04-21-2001 06:52:11  
I for got to mention. Make sure you properly shim your axle, so it won't rotate on you when you go to lift the engine half up.



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Bob

04-21-2001 06:22:05




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 Re: Super A...Splitting Tractor in reply to Tyler (MD), 04-21-2001 05:09:48  
Hi Tyler, You will just have to get into it to know what is exactly wrong. I had to break my Super C down because I thought it was the throw-out bearing. I when out and bought a bearing, pilot bushing, etc. and when I got it apart found out the clutch part of the flywheel assembly was warped. I had it reground and it is doing great. It is a bit of a job but, you should be ok. If you have any questions you will receive plenty of help from this forum. Bob

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